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Mexican Coin In Gold Ring?

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 Posted 09/21/2009  1:50 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add steveluigi to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi there, I'm new here so please be gentle :-)
I have a very small 9kt gold ring with a small Mexican coin mounted within.
Itis the coin that my query is directed at.
Although it has the wording 'ESTADOS UNIDOS MEXICANOS' on one side and a head of state on the other, there is no actual denomination on the coin?
The coin looks definitely gold and the colour matches very closely to the colour of the ring mount.
Could someone shed any light on the face value of the coin and if at all possible it's present worth?
I have attached a picture.
Thank you very much for your help

Mexican-Coin-In-Gold-Ring?
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09/21/2009 1:52 pm
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 Posted 09/21/2009  3:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snowman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like a fantasy coin to me. The top-side of the ring resembles a US Quarter Eagle, except that it would need a date below the bust to be legitimate. The under-side of the ring resembles a Mexican 2-1/2 Peso, KM# 463.

The other explanation would be that there are 2 coins in the mount. If this is true, the Mexican coin could be real.
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 Posted 09/21/2009  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Even if it was a genuine coin, the fact that it has been made into jewelry pretty much ruins any numismatic value(with few exceptions) as that is almost always a damaging process. However, there is still always gold value
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 Posted 09/21/2009  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steveluigi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for your help so far.
As for the points made up to now, I have, on scouring the internet, found out that many Mexican coins do have the eagle on one side as on this coin, but as you say, there is no date. On the top side is the head of state's head, does anyone know which head this is please, it looks similar to the UK Queen Elizabeth? is she also the sovereign in Mexico? Also as pointed out, mounting a coin does devalue it in some cases, but also as mentioned, there is the gold value.
Thank you for your time and if there are any further delelopments as to the origina of the coin, I would be very appreciative to hear your comments
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 Posted 09/21/2009  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snowman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To me the liberty head looks a lot like the one on late 19th, early 20th century US coins:

http://www.coinfacts.com/quarter_ea...er_eagle.htm

As far as I know, Mexican gold coins only had the bust of Hidalgo (a balding male with a prominent nose) on them.
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 Posted 09/21/2009  7:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steveluigi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you again for your reply and helping to try to get to the bottom of this mystery.
Overall then, would it be the general consensus that this most likely is a made up coin for the sake of mounting in a ring? or is there still a chance that it may still be a genuine coin?
Thank you
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 Posted 09/21/2009  9:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brannenworks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think that the top is a US $1 Liberty Head type 1 gold coin, (the date is on the reverse). The bottom must be some Mexican coin.

These are both very tiny coins. I can imagine that there is room to put two coins in the same piece of jewelry without damaging either. The US $1, if relatively undamaged, would be worth at least around $100.
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 Posted 09/21/2009  9:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hc8604 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with the top is the $1 gold Liberty type. Maybe two coins in one ring or only halves and put together? Probably the Mexican coin was placed as a spacer?
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 Posted 09/22/2009  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steveluigi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi again and can I thank you all for the fabulous response to my query.
The mystery is over, and the coin is just as suggested further up the thread, is a fantasy coin.
I had to get to the end of the puzzle so I took the coin out of the mount and it is a single coin with the head on one side and the eagle on the other. Before you ask I have remounted the coin, I'm used to fiddly work as I also repair wristwatches as a hobby.
Again thank you all for your valuable help and I will recommend the forum to friends.
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 Posted 09/22/2009  4:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snowman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I think that the top is a US $1 Liberty Head type 1 gold coin


How dumb of me. The Liberty dollar has the date on the obverse. Coincidentally, is the same size as a 2 Peso Mexican gold piece (13mm). Maybe it is 2 coins mounted together. Only one way to find out though...
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