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Mystery English Token...

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This token came to me a while back as an "unknown."

It's a little less unknown now, but not by much.

Last year a fellow member of the CU World & Ancients forum tracked down the snippet of heraldry on it to the Minshull family in Cheshire.

Craftsmanship suggests 18th century, perhaps well before the time when Conders flowed like Champagne.

Could be a colliery check or a boundary token, or perhaps a truck ticket. Haven't got a clue what the H*I or I*H means, or even which way is up.

I sent these pix unsolicited to the president of the Lancashire and Cheshire Coin Association. He was thrilled to see it but knows nothing of its provenance, so it's on that group's agenda for their October meeting later this week. That may turn up something, I hope.

Have any of you seen this piece before or know anything about it?

Thanks in advance for whatever leads you might be able to give me.

Best ~
Tom

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 Posted 10/14/2009  02:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It reminds me of the heraldic buttons mentioned on the UK detector finds database, like this. Except your piece clearly has never been made into a button.
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Those buttons are neat...I bet antique shops all over the U.K. have examples for sale.

This sets up the unavoidable related question for extra credit:

If we're numismatists, what are button collectors called?


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If you search google you just get 'button collector' how boring.

Can't find a Latin word for button but the modern Greek is pronounced KUMBI...
so a kumbiatist.
Sounds like the song..."Kumbaya, my Lord..."

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Interesting, Vic...looks like the same root for "cymbal."

Your new word --surely something we numismatists would call
a confection -- should rhyme with psychiatrist, right?

I suppose a plausible alternate would be kumbiologist?

The Latin for button is the masculine noun boto, botonis.
(With a verb available too, of course: botonare.)

This gives us a few more possibilities for naming that hobby.
Botoology would be practiced by botoologists, for sure, but maybe
also by botooists. I sorta prefer botophilia for naming the
collectors' obsession or passion. And folks who like to take
(or draw) pictures of the buttons in their collections would
be known as botographers, no?

Meanwhile, people, lest we forget...my mystery token...

Thanks ~
Tom

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