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Beware Of 10 Cent Rolls.

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 Posted 10/29/2009  9:41 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Snowy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Today I went to my bank and bought 4 rolls of dimes to try and fill up the holes in some of my sets.
Anyhow, I took the rolls home and started to open the first one when to my shock the first 2 coins on either end were dimes and the rest were pennies. I carefully pulled back the brown paper wrapper on the other 3 and sure enough they were all like that. I returned to the bank to the same teller and showed her the scam that someone had pulled. She actually went into the vault to get these. I asked her to check the others in that same bunch. Sure enough she peeled back the paper on about 6 more of them and they were all the same. Then came the manager who apolgized and said these were sent out from head office.
This was with CIBC. So, just a heads up to everyone.
I received my different rolls and I opened them right there to ensure that they were in fact all dimes, and they were.
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 Posted 10/29/2009  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dollar1948 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Im assuming they were paper rolls. That being the case I'm surprised the banks dont force thedepositors to use clear rolls only.
On another note, cant they weigh these things as well?
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 Posted 10/29/2009  10:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snaz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, tough times call for drastic measures for some people.
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Canada
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 Posted 10/29/2009  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Snowy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You'd think that the banks would have more security in place than "the trust system".

I agree, the dimes should all be rolled in plastic due to the fact that the pennies and dimes are almost the same size.

These ones were rolled in the brown paper wrappers that are somewhat lose, hence the pennies fitting in these types of rolls meant for dimes.
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 Posted 10/29/2009  10:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pretty good return $o.68 for $5.00
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 Posted 10/29/2009  11:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add collectall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
U N B E L I E V A B L E! That is outrageous.I get rolls from CIBC too.
Almost all are missing 1 or 2.(Examples: 2 rolls of dimes I got once
had 2 short in EACH roll. 1 quarter roll had a metal slug 1 had one of those flat batteries. Not to mention various foreign coins AND I THOUGHT I WAS GETTING RIPPED OFF. Some will do anything these days to make a PENNY. In your case!! Well at least it was resolved! (Scary to even do roll searching isn't it ?)
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 Posted 10/29/2009  11:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RFB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For a change I got a box of nickels from my local wells fargo to go through.

I sat down and spread out, went through the rolls and made various stacks and sorted by decade. Then by years, then by mints. I found various goodies and so on. The point of my post is when I completed the proccess and went to re-roll everything I was almost an entire roll short.

I double counted and was in a controlled environment. Nope I got shorted.

3 Candians, and 2 knock outs from electrical boxes included in the mix.
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 Posted 10/29/2009  11:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RFB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And almost forgot- The box was sealed and rolls were wrapped in the clear plastic wrappers. Go figure.
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 Posted 10/29/2009  11:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dibby33 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i opened three rolls of 20c (australian) yesterday and got 3 from New Zealand. Nice coins though - not complaining. Trying to collect all the NZ coins just from circulation in Tasmania. This is a long shot. :-)
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 Posted 10/29/2009  11:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rikcando to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, I expect nothing less from Crooks In Banker's Clothing. That place is the Crappiest Institute for Banking in Canada. Sorry to hear about your troubles.
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10/29/2009 11:59 pm
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 Posted 10/30/2009  01:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1cent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Never trust an institution that has the ability to conjure as much money into existence as it's customers can borrow.
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Canada
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 Posted 10/30/2009  08:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1945V to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Short rolls is a common problem at all banks.
It happens less with paper rolls, but is very common with plastic rolls.

There is a simple reason for this coin short problem.
Take nickels for example:

Pre-1982 Cdn nickels are 1.70 mm thick
Post-1981 Cdn nickels are 1.76 mm thick
That extra 0.06 mm becomes 2.4 mm after 40 nickels are stacked or takes the room away from 1.5 nickels.

This explains why some plastic holders are always short one nickel, because there is not enough room. They were designed for older nickels.

It gets worse if any US nickels are present, they are 1.95 mm thick.

Same issue exists with dimes. It is not a problem with pennies because they became thinner after 1981.

This is why I prefer the cardboard tube holders with the fold-in end.
They accomodate all thicknesses of coins.
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10/30/2009 08:22 am
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Canada
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 Posted 10/30/2009  10:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add malibu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Snowy,

A horrible experience...but I'm impressed you went right back to the branch and even more impressed they took this seriously AND found more in the vault AND admitted they were responsible! I would expect the manager of a chartered Cdn bank to come out, deny everything, treat the customer with suspicion and conduct a private investigation.

I'm sickened by what happened to you but glad you were treated this well by the bank...silver lining on every cloud!
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Canada
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 Posted 10/30/2009  11:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add psi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm a bit surprised that those rolls actually came in a shipment from another bank. Most banks seem to pass off customer wrapped rolls to other customers without checking them, but I've never seen anything that bad. Dimes are pretty common in penny rolls though so it seems to even out in the long run.
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 Posted 10/30/2009  12:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cdcoinman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have a coinmaster made in Canada to sort out my pocket change.I always place my loose change in the appropriate slots and found out that when it is full(no more room to add another coin)the 25¢ slot is not large enough to accomodate 40 but only 39.Same for the dimes,49 instead of 50.
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Australia
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 Posted 10/30/2009  9:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oasis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Whenever I was roll searching I would often come up short but I would just email the Royal Bank and complain and they would always credit my account. Sure the amounts were always small but at least they took the time to fix anything whenever I was short.
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