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Idiot Ebay Buyers - Morphed - Customs Debate

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 Posted 11/20/2009  8:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bibd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've probably waited too long on the sidelines here, as everyone has probably fled the carnage. I have watched with interest for a couple days now, though.

I can appreciate both sides, actually. As a Canadian, I would never ask a seller to falsify a declaration. I lived in the States for 5 years. Oh and by the way, the declaration form is a U.S. form, not a Canadian form. I suspect the U.S. enforces what goes on the form so as to continue to enjoy an amenable relationship with Canadian authorities. We do the same for them the other way.

But on the other hand -- in defense of the other side -- I appreciate the seller (within some legal wiggle-room) disguising the contents as "numismatic item", and declaring a *reasonable* -- yet not necessarily top market -- value.

In short, a buyer who threatens a neg unless the document is falsified is clearly wrong (and probably even should be reported). And a seller who can't bring himself to make a fair declaration (covering his butt while keeping the buyer in mind) deserves less future business. He's risking the success of the transaction.

I'm convinced the moral truth lies somewhere in between these extremes.

PS: I'm surprised the WpgLwr camp didn't come up with the following analogy: You call a cab to the airport. You're running late for your flight. You politely ask the cabby to step on it a little. But, sadly, you get the one cabby on earth who won't speed, even 1 mph. Now even scubu would be ticked if he missed that flight! (admittedly an imperfect analogy)
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11/20/2009 8:37 pm
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 Posted 11/20/2009  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xshift to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
everyone has probably fled the carnage


Oh no, we haven't fled. We're watching and reading.. and a few times even laughed coffee out our noses at the various comments.

Believe me.. there are a lot more people here than you think
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 Posted 11/20/2009  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weerdsteev to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
(of the coffee...out the nose...)
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11/20/2009 9:13 pm
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 Posted 11/20/2009  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't need a photo of that...the sensation is all too familiar.
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 Posted 11/20/2009  10:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WpgLwr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coffee...?

Hey, I'm not responsible for your monitor, remember that.
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 Posted 11/21/2009  12:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gawd0wns to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Weerdsteev, I can't believe he asked to keep the bonus coin! lol...

I agree with all of the users who would refuse to falsify a declaration. It is a federal offense, regardless of whether it is to enforce unfair taxation. I also agree with WpgLawyer's view that many Canadians feel frustrated over taxation.

I personally get upset with ebay sellers who put down "gift" on my packages when they should not, I have never and will never ask anyone to do this. When you send parcels abroad, you will have to go through the export process of your country (mailing the item, and getting permits if required) and the import process of the country you are mailing to. I can tell you from experience that aggravating border officers in Canada with false/misrepresented declarations in person or by mail, is just demanding trouble. If have no qualms about being added to their database of tax cheats, and having your baggage searched each time you re-enter the country, then by all means, go right ahead.

Most officers won't bother to charge tax on items that have no duty (like coins: "Numismatic Interest": Tariff Item # 9705.00.00), and are of little value... So don't lie!

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11/21/2009 12:17 am
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