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1957-D LWC RPD?

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Been a while since I last posted...moved 3 times in the last 6 mos...

Anyway, I found a couple of examples of an interesting 1957D LWC in an OBW roll. This looks like a Repunched Date to me. Anyone seen this one before? What do you think?

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 Posted 11/29/2009  09:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome back. I don't think they "re-punched" dates in a very long time. Your coin looks like post mint damage, maybe a Coin Wrapping Machine did it?
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The 20th Century coins didn't have single digits punched. The whole die is pressed at the same time. It happened in 19th Century coins in the U.S. Looks more like die damage or part of a clash. There could be activity in that area.
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If I remember correctly, for this era only the first 3 digits in each decade were included in the master hub. The final digit was hand punched into master dies for that year. This leaves the opportunity for errors, repunching, etc on that last digit of the date.

This is definitely not PMD since it looks to be on the die surface, not coin surface. It's just so intriguing that it is in the right position to be an RPD, and the shape looks so much like an errant repunch of the "7".
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What explanation was used for the old 1958/7 controversy? It seems a wheat stalk clash could explain that one based on the overlay.
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The 8/7 has been blamed as a hub scratch. Why not a die scratch? Hubs make many dies and a large percentage have the the so called "8/7" anomaly. Thus it is not a 8/7 that has been claimed in past ideas of thought. It is now considered not a overdate by current experts because they could not happen. The only overdates that are legit are actually hub doubled from two different years of hubs on a die, thus the few examples found in the 20th century. IE: The 42/41 Mercury dimes, the 43/42 Nickels (Hopefully these dates are correct, if not they are off because I'm more of a Lincoln Cent addict.)
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Those who say that 1957D repunched dates are not possible are correct. The date was not "puched" into the dies for any Lincoln Cent issue, thus "re-punching" would be impossible. Any date doubling on any Lincoln Cent that relates to how the die was made would have to be a doubled die - nothing else.

The 1958/7 thing was a master die gouge coupled with concentric die scratches, presumably on the master die. They were not on the hub...two different things, two different results.
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Chuck for the clarification on this.
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