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1964-P LMC DDO?

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this is graded.What DDO is this one ?
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A loaded question. If a coin is graded and has no designation of a doubled die, then it is assumed to be a normal coin and not a doubled die. I don't see any doubling in the images provided. But some other areas to check is under/above the L in LIBERTY or the doubled eyelid. It just depends on how the die was hubbed.
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Coop - because there are a LARGE number of coins in non-designated holders that ARE die varieties.

I do agree, however, that this coin does not appear to be a doubled die obverse. I see nothing that points to that.
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Unless they are designated when they are graded, some companies miss them. Some grading companies have specifics about grading varieties. At one time PCGS didn't grade varieties by I've they are now using the cherry pickers numbers. But I agree that some are missed. It takes they eye to cherry pick these if they were not graded that way.
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It's not a matter of them being "missed" - if you do not specify a variety on the submission form the graders don't even look for the varieties. Additionally, most collectors don't submit coins for a variety designation, they are after the grade.

Don't assume that the majority is interested in what we are interested in...that's an incorrect assumption. More than 75% of all collectors don't care about minor die varieties, nor would they care if there was a die number on their holder.
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I as for details but Anacs did not comply.
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Has anyone found the DV this is?
I have viewed every DDO at https://www.coppercoins.com
and have not found it yet that is close
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I don't see anything doubled on your coin. That's the problem.
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this is the best photo that shows doubling
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How about a closer shot at the lower Part of the LIB area. I don't see any doubling on the date area? There are a few Bar L under the LIB area.
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Here is liberty
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Sorry, I still don't know what they were looking at calling it a DDO?
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I hate to be brutally honest, but ANACS is clueless on this one and it would not be the first non Doubled Die I've seen labeled as one in an ANACS slab.

I see nothing to indicate that the coin is a doubled die.

Thanks,
Bill
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Interesting topic, I know if you do not list what you want attributed on the submission form, and let's say the coin has a 180 degree rotated reverse ( not listed on form to attribute ) it will not be done.

I have seen dealers coins sent in for grading and the coin, when returned, was noticed to have the rotated reverse, but was not noticed, or asked to be, on original form. Chuck you are so right about that. Also, I do believe I see dbl'ng in Liberty on this coin, maybe my eyes or the lighting, but the b in liberty looks dbl'd.
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