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coins92 Pillar of the Community United States 851 Posts	Posted 01/09/2010 12:38 am While I was in North Carolina at one coin store I was looking through the owner's several Trade dollars and came to the last of the stack. A beautiful XF-40 example of the very elusive year, 1798. A word to the counterfeiters: if your going to try put that much effort into making a quick buck, research a little better.! Had it not been for the date it would have been quite difficult to tell it was a fake. Report this Post to the Staff

BH1964 Bedrock of the Community United States 10982 Posts	Posted 01/09/2010 12:54 am How much was the owner of this coin shop asking for it? ANA #R3154474 Report this Post to the Staff
ratman4762 Pillar of the Community United States 2520 Posts	Posted 01/09/2010 01:24 am I think one of the funniest fakes I've seen on ebay was from a seller in China. Along with his other obvious fakes was a Dollar coin with a Washington quarter obverse. Report this Post to the Staff
Bryan1315 Bedrock of the Community United States 14454 Posts	Posted 01/09/2010 01:33 am wow what coin shop in NC were you at? I definitely want to stay away from that shop if they can't even tell a counterfeit coin like that is fake and are selling it to the public Report this Post to the Staff
Archraz Pillar of the Community United States 3499 Posts	Posted 01/09/2010 01:50 am coins92- Nice! I really wish that you had pics of this. It just makes me happy that sometimes incompetence reveals all. Report this Post to the Staff
latman100 Pillar of the Community Australia 1040 Posts	Posted 01/09/2010 05:32 am Just for those of us who don't know (ie. me), I take it there were no Trade dollars dated 1798? Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16808 Posts	Posted 01/09/2010 09:20 am No, Latman. The American " Trade dollar" (as distinct from their "regular" kinds of silver dollars) was issued for circulation from 1873 to 1878, with proofs up to 1885. See the CCF Coinfacts page. As for wrong dates, wrong designs, mismatched obverses/reverses, etc, this is very typical of the lower class of Chinese counterfeits. The motivation (if in fact there is one) seems to be to create "mint errors", however improbable such an error might be. If you were to ask a seller of these coins in China/Hong Kong/Singapore how, for example, could Queen Elizabeth II be on a coin dated 1908 because she wasn't even born in 1908, the seller will promptly tell you that must mean it's an extremely rare mint error, and double their asking price. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
coins92 Pillar of the Community United States 851 Posts	Posted 01/09/2010 11:17 am Yes, the owner new the coin was a fake and said a person came in and argued with him that it was real! Report this Post to the Staff
Saruma Pillar of the Community United States 968 Posts	Posted 01/09/2010 11:41 am I don't think that most of those errors on counterfeits are intentional. Asian counterfeits of most every kind of product are notorious for sloppy errors. I can't even begin to count the number of "Micky Mose" or "Halo Kity" products I've seen while in Asia. I think the low end counterfeits have these glaring errors due to sloppiness and the "mint error" excuse is just a way to try and cover it up. Report this Post to the Staff
BH1964 Bedrock of the Community United States 10982 Posts	Posted 01/09/2010 3:39 pm Quote: I don't think that most of those errors on counterfeits are intentional. I agree. Switch the numbers around to 1879 and it becomes a valid date. The crooks made a mistake! ANA #R3154474 Report this Post to the Staff
latman100 Pillar of the Community Australia 1040 Posts	Posted 01/09/2010 5:46 pm Thanks Sap Report this Post to the Staff
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