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 Posted 06/02/2006  08:37 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Dog Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Received an email from Pay Pal this morning stating I had sent a payment out for a camera. Only problem is, I did not purchase a camera. I then went to the Pay Pal site and checked my recent activity. This transaction is not listed anywhere. Has anyone else received such bogus emails recently?
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 Posted 06/02/2006  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WatchyourbackDOC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Dog Man

Received an email from Pay Pal this morning stating I had sent a payment out for a camera. Only problem is, I did not purchase a camera. I then went to the Pay Pal site and checked my recent activity. This transaction is not listed anywhere. Has anyone else received such bogus emails recently?



Hey Dog, I get these all the time. Do NOT waste your time on these, other than to forward them to spoof@paypal.com. Do NOT open any links, or provide personal info. :-)
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 Posted 06/02/2006  11:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you clicked on the link they provided in the email and signed in to "paypal" through that link you will want to go to paypal's website (not through that link but by manually typing in paypal.com)and make sure you still have access to your account and if you do you need to change your password "Imediatley". If they have already taken over your paypal account you need to get in touch with paypal and any bank institution that is linked with that paypal account and tell them what happened so they can freeze your account because they will have access to all your paypal funds and credit card information and bank information
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06/02/2006 11:45 am
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 Posted 06/02/2006  1:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dog Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Update - Thanks for the info and responses. I contacted Pay Pal and advised them of the email. Much as I thought this was bogus. I did not click on the provided link in the email nor give any personal info. Said email has also been forwarded to spoof@paypal.com
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 Posted 06/02/2006  7:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CiScO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good Dog---

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 Posted 06/03/2006  12:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Between ebay, PayPal, Chase-Manhattan, Fleet Bank, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, and several dozen other financial institutions, I receive one or two dozen of these phishing messages per week. I have my Eudora filters set to set aside all such messages as "Junk". While I receive legitimate messages from my own banks, credit card companies, ebay, and PayPal, the fake ones are usually pretty easy to spot since they don't address me by name nor my "last four"; most are sent to an alias address I never use for financial purposes. I also know about when the legitimate messages are due in; in all instances, I never click onto a hyperlink in a financial message but access my $ sites from my bookmarks.

The problem is that of the 10K or so phishing messages they send out each time, all they have to do is find one well-heeled, but gullible and naive sucker to pay for their efforts.
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 Posted 06/04/2006  10:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add humpybong to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Give the doggy a bone!

Smart dog.
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 Posted 06/05/2006  5:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gary Burke to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I get at least one bogus e-mail from both PayPal and ebay each week. I keep sending them to the company, labeled "spoof." Don't know if that helps or not.

Last week was a record one for me with regard to the African e-mails telling me of a long-lost relative and how I can claim millions. Received seven of them. Sure wish they could catch those suckers, toss 'em in the pen, and lose the key.
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 Posted 06/07/2006  7:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kcvet67 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The frequency of these phishing expeditions seems to be tied to ebay activity, which makes sense. Weeks when I buy a lot I can count on more of them. I guess what I'm trying to say is that it's not a random thing just pulled from a member list. The odd thing is that they're invariably for items that I don't normally buy, so whoever is doing it hasn't thought it out too well.
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 Posted 06/07/2006  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by kcvet67

The frequency of these phishing expeditions seems to be tied to ebay activity, which makes sense. Weeks when I buy a lot I can count on more of them. I guess what I'm trying to say is that it's not a random thing just pulled from a member list. The odd thing is that they're invariably for items that I don't normally buy, so whoever is doing it hasn't thought it out too well.



Actually, it's more of a function of the numbers of times your email address has been harvested by spambots, crawlers, or other electronic spiders crawling the web. One's address is most vulnerable if it has been directly referenced on an online forum, chat room, or website. With regard to ebay, if an auction description has included an address in the text in standard email format (e.g., "alibaba@babble.com") instead of a camouflaged address without the "@" symbol (e.g., "alibaba AT babble.com"), it is far less likely to be picked up by the crawlers. While it can also be retrieved from a hypertexted reference, it is far less likely that a crawler has retrieved it. Both ebay and PayPal have a pretty good record of keeping their members' addresses hidden from crawlers (unless a member has shot himself in the foot by putting his address on public display in an auction).

There is also another source for phishers to obtain addresses: persons who use a relatively common domain name, e.g., yahoo.com, hotmail.com, comcast, att, msn, and ten thousand others are potential victims when spammers, phishers, or whoever send out millions of emails using random names and/or numbers combinations. For example, someone with a self-designated username at a larger (say, 10K) domain is eventually going to become a target. A username such as "John62368@comcast.com" is a fugitive from the law of averages if he hasn't already become a spam/phishing/Nigeria-scam target. While an address-generator might send out 75 million fake messages and have 70 million bounce back, he now has 5 million good addresses to use himself or sell to other phishing expeditions.

A number of us use an alias or forwarding address instead of our direct email addresses when doing anything online which might become public, managing our own websites, or otherwise keeping hidden our actual addresses except when dealing with trusted financial institutions. 95% of the junk including ALL spoofed ebay and PayPal I receive is to one specific alias address which is how I know the message is junk since I never use that address for financial transactions. Call it a decoy address.

There are plenty of techniques to protect oneself again the spoofers, but this response is already getting too long. On of the best ways is to secure an address with a tiny ISP which offers several addresses for each subscriber and use that only for personal financial matters, using another address for more public purposes. But, nobody's address is absolutely safe from being harvested although, as mentioned above, there are techniques for minimizing an address's vulnerability.

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