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Hello
When selling on ebay,are there any coins that can not be sold outside of USA? Are there any countries that you can not ship to?
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Well, I do not know about legally speaking, but it can be very problematic to ship internationally to certain areas. As for coins that are illegal to sell outside of the US, as long as they are not counterfeits, I do not think there are any restrictions.
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Ok, I have noticed that some say they don't sell to such and such And I didn't know why.I didn't know if was the type of coin or the destination. I hadn't thought about it being problematic.
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Many sellers do not want to deal with the difficulty of international shipping.
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Yeah, some countries have notoriously poor or slow international mail service, and some sellers do not want to deal with the headache of getting negative comments about things that may not be their fault.
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I think I am going to join that group. What about Canada? I live on the south shore of Lake Erie I could hand deliver by boat after the spring thaw.
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not only the time it takes to get there its also allot of scammers will buy and pay with paypal and then make a chargeback and the seller has no recourse because you can't get signature confirmation from the US to some other countries so there is no way for the seller to prove they received their item. If you can't prove it got signed for then you will lose a paypal dispute
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Shipping to Canada is quite easy as well as shipping to Australia and some European countries. I personally have no problem shipping internationally to anyone on the forum but I am much more restrictive on ebay becuase the level of trust is significantly lower. I have seen many sellers get negative feedback because the buyer either thinks the seller should be responsible for import duties incurred or wants the seller to mark an item as "gift" to illegally avoid import and customs duties.
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You may get negged for delay in shipping time even though package is sitting in customs or s-l-o-w Canadian mail delivery.
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Some years back my Son spent a semester at the University of Krakow. Part of the program from his college here was to travel accross Europe from Belgium to Poland and after the semester, travel back. In almost every country he asked people if it was OK to send coins of their country to me. About half said it was against the law there to send any of their currency out of the country. Of course being a kid, he did anyway and it just went through as mail. He was told that some countries are so strick about it that it comes with prison time. Again, in school in Poland, the other kids all said, YEAH, Right.
Not sure how it works but he did send some of our coins to someone in Germany several times when he got back. Said to just make sure it doesn't look like coins. KIDS?
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norham,

where about on the s. shore are you? hamburg I'm guessing, I'm from down by Olean.

One trick I've had to deal with mostly on ebay in regards to coins is taking an accurate and clear pic. that and a quick note "no bidders outside blah blah blah" (countries of your choice) After that is not too bad, besides fees lol
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Hello

Shipping between Canada and the U.S. is easy, you should have no problems. I live in Canada, in my experience when ordering any item from the U.S., shipping times can vary from about 8 business days during non-peak periods, to as high as 15 business days during peak holiday periods (Christmas). I find lettermail gets here faster than parcels.

Coins, tokens, and medals sent to Canada, which are meant for collections are not subject to any customs duty. See 9705.00.00 in the current customs tariff: http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/trade-co...ch97-eng.pdf. As for taxes, in my experience, customs won't charge any tax on items mailed unless they charge you duty.

If you are a U.S. citizen, you can check http://www.ustreas.gov/offices/enforcement/ofac/ for a list of people and countries you can't do business with.

Also be aware, many European countries are strict when it comes to importing/exporting ancient coins (i.e from the roman empire). Ancient coins are covered under UNESCO, so you might want to do more research if it concerns you.

Many ebay sellers encounter high instances of fraud in certain countries, which is why they refuse to sell in certain places. I don't think you should be worried about doing business with people from Canada.



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Biokemist6 said:
Shipping to Canada is quite easy as well as shipping to Australia and some European countries.

Shipping to Australia from the US is only problematic in the sense that the USPS has, for reasons of it's own, chosen to put "coins" on the list of things that are illegal to export to Australia; some US post office workers notice this and will refuse to allow you to mail coins here.

I can assure everyone that Australia has in fact no such import restrictions on coins. I've certainly never heard of "illegally imported coins" being confiscated from people. There are laws on the books about importing "money" in the form of coins and notes, but our customs officers seem to have no trouble telling the difference between a drug courier's wad of cash and collector coins.

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I have seen many sellers get negative feedback because the buyer either thinks the seller should be responsible for import duties incurred or wants the seller to mark an item as "gift" to illegally avoid import and customs duties.

These fees might apply when exporting anything valuable to certain countries; in some countries (I've heard complaints about Canada and Belgium both having ridiculously low import duty thresholds) the buyer will be asked for money when they collect the items, and the buyer may think that this is all your fault and neg you for charging them "hidden extra fees". This is why most sellers put disclaimers asking people to check up on their own country's customs fees before bidding.

I think the only coins you can't ship outside of the US are ancient coins from Cyprus and China; that peculiar restriction is being tested in the courts. Modern bullion coins from blacklisted countries (currently Cuba, Iran, Myanmar and Sudan) may also be problematic to export; they're certainly illegal to import.
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I think that a lot of this boils down to bias and stereotyping of folks based on a bad experience in the past with a person of a certain country.

As far as chargebacks go, Registered Mail negates that issue.
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I am not sure you can use Registered for out of country shipments. You could track it on the USPS website until it was delivered to the other country, then it is traveling blind. I have never had this problem but I do know when shipping from Hong Kong to the US with delivery confirmation when you look it up you can see when it left the PO there and where it traveled to the boarder but once the US has it you just got to sit and wait for it to arrive because you can't track it any longer. I was just guessing that would be how it was going the other way also
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