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Need Approximate Value Of 1933 Obverse George V Florin Etc.

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Need the approximate value of a 1933 Obverse George V Emporer New Zealand Florin, various 1935 florins and shillings all having a circulation of about 7500 to 735,000.

Difficulty determining whether some are proofs, thanks to the different colors.

I have posted pictures as each coin from New Zealand is in top condition.
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I need to know the average approximate grading value for one or two of these coins. Collection includes over 100 coins.

Thank you for your assistance with this matter.
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For similar "Top grade" as per picture, I think approx. 100-200 USD value on all 100 coins.
I have some high grade florins 1933-45 maybe in VF/goodVF grade, but they are with very nice details and maybe 10-20 USD each, one is with 8 pearls on the crown (1933).
Can you find any florin with 6-7 or 8 pearls on the crown?
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"Can you find any florign with 6-7 or 8 pearls on the crown?"

Where do I look at to find this? All coins are in top condition.
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This is high grade sixpence from my collection, but if you can find FLORIN in similar grade, maybe this florin will be with value over 60-70 USD. If there is 2-3 visible pearls only I think approx. value is 2-7-8 USD, 6 pearls (approx. VF?) - 20 USD. This is approx. only.

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Ok thanks a lot for this assistance. He has 8 pearls in the crown. On the half pennies it is harder to see, so from this analysis, it looks like the average value is 30 usd or 20 usd.

Some, depending on who takes a look at them could be worth 70 usd. This should help a whole lot in the discovery process, I am however always interested in second opinions from experts.
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rareflorincoin- This looks like a rather interesting collection. Would it be possible for you to take some closer pics of each side of the coin?

I should also mention that it would probably be in your best interest to find some sort of better holders for these coins. These holders can be obtained at just about any local coin shop. I also recommend that you try to pick up a copy of the "Standard Catalog of World Coins" 1901-2000 that is published by Krause. You can find an edition from a couple of years ago for quite cheap on Amazon or from a used book shop. That book and/ or asking more questions on this forum should help you.
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I do not wish to handle the coins too much as they have never been taken out of the books. Can I do this with gloves or via some recommended method?

Other question that I need answered, is it feasible to dip these coins into some kind of non-toxic coin wash to restore a lot of their sheen, before sending them off to be comprehensively graded?

I have never done anything quite like this before, so I was curious what other members suggest. Each coin has really not been taken out of the books, and the earlier ones who someone removed were sold to some New Zealand collectors.
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rareflorincoin- No, do not try to clean them! Cleaning them is one of the worst things you can do since it makes them have a very fake glow and much detail is lost. Collectors really do not like cleaned coins, which results in them being heavily reduced in value. On top of this, if a coin is cleaned, most reputable third-party grading services will refuse to grade it. So just leave them alone. A circulated coin is not supposed to have luster.

You certainly can remove them, but just be careful. All collectible coins, especially those which still have natural luster should always be held by the edges (so that one's fingers do not even touch the front or back of a coin). One thing to remember: Every fingerprint that ever is on a coin is permanent. You can certainly get soft, cotton gloves that can allow you to handle your coins.

I recommend that you get some non-PVC vinyl flips in which to store these coins.
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And what type of non vinyl flips do you prefer?

By the way, I was told by some coin dealers that it is smart to clean your coins. I am sensing this was a lie basically.

So how might you go about making sure they are still sheen worthy, without ruining them ie: washing them in improper liquids? Where should I acquire these gloves that would be the best choice? And how should I handle the coins when I put on special gloves, just by the round edges?
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rareflorincoin- Actually you want "NON-PVC" flips. Polyvinyl chloride is a chemical used in plastic pipes and a number of other plastic products that makes the plastic very flexible. Unfortunately, it is very volatile. When exposed to humidity or just to varying temperatures over a period of time a gross slime will leach out and coat your coins. This slime later hardens into green globs. This slime is very hard to remove and will always be evident on the coin. This means that you will have to clean it in order to remove it from the coin. And as I said, cleaning is the opposite of what you want to do.

As for what the dealer said: he is obviously either trying to just make money selling you cleaning products (and fooling you into ruining your coins), or he is hoping that you will clean them and be able to buy them off you as "damaged coins," or he is just plain crazy. DO NOT clean them.

Regarding making them "sheen worthy:" you don't want them to shine. If a coin is circulated it should NOT have luster. Shining them up is damaging them. Dealers hate selling cleaned coins, 95% of customers avoid buying cleaned coins like the plague, and grading companies automatically reject cleaned coins as "damaged" or "unnatural." Hence, the natural form is best. Most of your older florins have that dull gray color, which they should. Anything else would be bad and detrimental to the value, eye-appeal, and just about every other attribute that would make the coins collectible.

In essence, just buy some nice cotton gloves from your dealer, continue to just hold them by the round edges (and do not touch the flat surfaces), and put them into some nice non-PVC flips. That is all you have to do to preserve them and keep them in their best form.
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Good answers. Where do I buy both cotton gloves and non-PVC based flips?
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rareflorincoin- You should be able to buy both from any coin shop. All dealers sell coin holders and other supplies. If your dealer does not sell gloves, you might be able to buy some online (such as on ebay or coin supply websites) or possibly even at a hardware store. Just make sure that the flips that you buy are RIGID. the stiff ones are non-PVC, the very flexible kind are the bad PVC type.
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Rigid plastic, okay I wrote this down. One other inquiry. Someone else who is a grading expert has said these coins should not be taken out of the coin book, or else the value could go down for quite a few of them.

I need to have an answer as to whether this is bologna or not. Either way I have planned to take only a selection of coins out, to place them in the non-PVC casing by using the gloves.

I have not heard of their value going down by moving them before, so would it be necessary to omit the fact the coins may have been moved into a different holder? Would I be required to act like I never touched them to begin with?

Thanks for your assistance, it is really appreciated.
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rareflorincoin- There really is no value added by them being in the book. In fact, that book is probably not the best way of storing or displaying them: One side is totally exposed and the other cannot be viewed. So, yes, what that person told you is bologna. The book may be an older book that could be a curiosity to someone, but it probably has no value. Those coins should go into non-PVC flips.

No problem at all. I'm glad to help!
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