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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I was just curious which is the worse offense on ebay, bid retraction or just deciding not to pay because you no longer want the item in question because you cannot retract your bid? I knew somebody who did this and I wanted to know your thoughts. Don't pay and take the negative feedback if you can't retract? |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
751 Posts |
I don't think there is any comparison, unless I misunderstand what you mean by bid retraction.
NPB is breaking a contract (though how robust a contract, I'm not sure), as has been noted on another thread. Bid retraction is just an 'oops'.
Once I bid $40 for a $5 coin. It was between 12 and 24 hrs before the close of the auction. Must have been too late at night. Retracted the bid within 5 min and bid $4 as I intended. No one else was affected. Probably no one else was even aware of the $40 bid.
I don't think this was nearly as big an infraction as if I hadn't retracted the bid, won it for $7 or so, and then refused to pay.
Peace
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Moderator
 United States
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Bid retraction is changing your mind. Sometimes greasy, but legal.
Refusing to pay a won auction is going back on your word, plain and simple. Where I come from, a man does not go back on his word. It genuinely mystifies me that people find it morally possible to do such things.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
4870 Posts |
I have been reading on ebay that bid retractions are "fully" investigated by ebay, whatever that may consist of. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
14454 Posts |
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Originally posted by nds76
I have been reading on ebay that bid retractions are "fully" investigated by ebay, whatever that may consist of.
It consists of you clicking a button saying why you retracted the bid before it gets retracted, nothing is done after the bid has been retracted |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1703 Posts |
Actually,I'm dealing with a non paying bidder right now. They won the auction,promised to pay and still have not. I'm trying to do everything I can to avoid reporting a non paying bidder,but there not leaving me much choice. If it was a small amount I would just let it go but the fees I pay to ebay on a $140 sale are nothing to sneeze at.  |
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Valued Member
United States
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Bid retractions are nothing really compared to NPB. A retraction will stay on your pos/neg display if I recall for 6 months, also you can only have 2 per 6 months if policy has not changed. I have retracted maybe 2-3 bids over a 5 years period or so, because AFTER I placed a bid, I found out that I over bidded by large sums, in one case the item was a fake/replica when I thought it was legit--On that 1 I retracted and did not bid at all after retract-- A NPB on the other hand, if seller leaves a neg will be on your record for ever--. I have sold an item whereas a winning bidder NEVER contacted me and he never paid. After the 7 days deadline I put on the auction for payment, I went ahead and contacted ebay and reported the NPB so I could recover the ebay fees-which they did refund after following their requests and procedures-I did not however file a neg to the buyer--Didn't care after I got my money back--besides, why chance a neg in retaliation-- Edited by CiScO
06/08/2006 9:58 pm
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I've had to deal with only one non-paying bidder and that was back in 2000 in ebay's relatively early days. I gave the kid every chance to pay, but after more than three weeks of either no answers or an answer like "I'll send it tomorrow." with no results, I finally reported him, then neg'd him. This was in the days when a few negs would get one kicked off ebay. He was kicked off ebay. Turns out this was the third time he's been NARU'd, so he was gone for good. I also received personal responses from ebay, so I know my messages were getting through to real people. Ah, the good old days. Fred |
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Valued Member
Australia
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I have used the bid retraction twice on ebay. Once was because I entered an incorrect amount for the wrong auction item (my fault as I run internet explorer with many many windows), the other because I realised the seller was sneaky and up to no good. They are not as bad as Non Paying Bidders. Even though ebay says "your bid is a contract", that makes no sense, they mean to say "your bid is an offer". "Your bid is a contract" only makes sense if it is the highest bid at the end of the auction, i.e. it has been accepted by the seller. Once the auction has ended, the bidder has now committed him/herself to paying for the goods/services. Repudiating at this stage is far more of a consequence to the seller. The seller has not only relied on the fact that the buyer will make payment, but owes fees (which will be reimbursed by ebay if a true non-paying bidder) and there is no further opportunity to generate offers for his goods/services unless he relists again. We are still at the stage where people seem to think that just because a sale is made online, it is less important than one made in a "real" physical store. This is a false and misleading distinction. Occasionally I get buyers purchasing from my online store,not making payment, and not even having the decency to reply to any emails. --Peter |
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