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Valued Member
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I was looking for a cheap Mercury dime for my 7070, my first Mercury dime actually, and I ran across this strange looking 42/1 overdate: http://cgi.ebay.com/1942-1-Mercury-...ke_W0QQitemZ230432794293QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_US_Individual?hash=item35a6dd66b5 I say strange because I did some reading on Mercury dimes to become a little more familiar with them, and the keys. None of the 42/1 photos that I've seen showed anything on the "4", and I never saw a complete "1" punched over the "2". Do you think this is a post-mint modification to make it look like a key? On a positive note, I think I may have found a 1916-P dime in MS condition for my set :) Edited by gawd0wns
02/04/2010 9:53 pm
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 United States
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That is what the 1942/1 is supposed to look like. I wouldn't be surprised to see this coin sell past $2,000, it's a beauty.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I am not really familiar with the overdate, but it doesn't immediately strike me as a fake. Also, bestcrystal is a pretty reputable ebay dealer from what I've heard. Even still, I wouldnt buy that coin raw under any circumstances. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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WOW! I don't think I ever seen a 1942 over 1 any nicer than this! I have a feeling this coin will go high! Talk about distinctive!  |
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United States
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It's more accurate to call it a 1942/41 since the 4 IS repunched. Few people do, though, and I'm not sure why.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I've seen the 1942/1 in the Cherrypicker's guide, but never with this much detail in the date area. In the interest of learning--can somebody explain those minute details I'm seeing in the 4/4? (arrows)  An earlier die state? Just to compare, I've pulled an image of a PCGS certified coin off Heritage.  |
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United States
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would this coin be considered (FSB)full split Band.,(FB)fullBand or not at All
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The 1942/1 Mercury dime is actually a doubled die- the die was impressed with a 1941 hub, annealed, and then the second hubbing was with a 1942 hub. This is the same process that created all modern overdates and the technical term would be Class III Design Hub Doubling. |
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 Canada
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Well that is great to hear. If I ever have enough to go for a 42/41, I'll know to look at the "4" as well. I now realize that I get a little paranoid/overly cautious (call it what you will) whenever I look to fill a hole in my 7070, and I find fault with anything unusual...Three holes down...many more to go  Edited by gawd0wns
02/05/2010 09:49 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It's more accurate to call it a 1942/41 since the 4 IS repunched No, the 4 is not repunched. Hand punching of dates was never used on 20th century series coins. |
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No, the 4 is not repunched. Hand punching of dates was never used on 20th century series coins  and yes, it's technically a doubled-die. swcoin.ecrater.com
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Valued Member
United States
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Well okay, not repunched, but the 4 is doubled significantly enough to include it when saying 1942/41 imo.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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None of the 42/1 photos that I've seen showed anything on the "4", That's actually one of the ways to spot most of the fake overdates, they don't show doubling on the 4. The coin in the ebay auction appears to be a very nice early die state. It's a shame they didn't show the whole date. You would see that there is also doubling to a lesser extent on the 1 and the 9 and well. Also note the die gouge between the 9 and the 4 that is not quite parallel to the diagonal of the 4. That could also be a usable diagnostic feature. |
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United States
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Nice Dime, That would almost have to be a 42/41
I saw a 42/1 at a coin dealer and the 1 stuck straight up through the 2.
He wanted $1100. and it was nowhere this coin
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Valued Member
Canada
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Quote:That's actually one of the ways to spot most of the fake overdates, they don't show doubling on the 4. The coin in the ebay auction appears to be a very nice early die state. It's a shame they didn't show the whole date. You would see that there is also doubling to a lesser extent on the 1 and the 9 and well. Also note the die gouge between the 9 and the 4 that is not quite parallel to the diagonal of the 4. That could also be a usable diagnostic feature. There is a photo of the entire obverse on the auction page. Edited by gawd0wns
02/09/2010 3:19 pm
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I just went to that site and it said removed. Not sold, just removed. I wonder what happened.
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Posted 02/04/2010 9:51 pm
