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1943 Washington Quarter

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Trying to get a handle on "whizzing"
I don't see unusual amounts of crud in the hard to reach parts of the devices but the lines extending outward from the center of the coin confuse me. Also would be interested in a grade. My guess is MS 64

1943-Washington-Quarter

1943-Washington-Quarter

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 Posted 02/13/2010  02:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aladinslamp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have had only one "whizzed coin, and it was really terrible looking,,I'm inclined to think its the "flowing of metal" during the strike that gives those slight lines, coin looks pretty nice to have needed to be whizzed. lets see what the big guys n gal's say....
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 Posted 02/13/2010  06:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halfwitty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Doesn't look whizzed to me.
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Looks natural to me also. Not many contact marks worthy of MS64. With a better planchet or strike it would easily go higher. Definitely a keeper. nlp
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 Posted 02/13/2010  11:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Podoprigora to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It does look original but for some reason "weak"
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I don't know if it is the photo but the luster looks very strange. Could you take another photo with diffeent lighting?
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It is a late die state coin, those are heavy die flow lines. I would agree with MS64, no major contact marks.
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Spectacular photos; I see few pictures(mine included) where the entire coin is in focus.
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The die flow lines are perfectly normal as others have stated but I'm surprised no one else finds the luster to look odd? I bet if you held that coin at the right angle and under the right light you would notice some mint colored spots.
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Sadly, the coin is not mine (yet). I got these photos from the seller. Also, the clipped edge of the obv photo is due to my crude attempt to get the image in under the 90kB limit. In the full photo, I see nothing negative about that area.
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As far as the luster goes, I am wondering, for a coin in the die's beginning and prime life I would expect the luster to have tremendous eye appeal, how ever I would think that the later die states luster's diminish, I could be wrong, but I do have some Morgans where the dies are really ending there life, they definitely don't cartwheel very well.. maybe some one else can chime in about luster and die's age....
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I'll let you know soon enough about the cartwheeling. I won it last night.
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Aladinslamp,
I'm not sure if there's a correlation or not, but I should. I have recognized several weakly struck coins with muted luster and also weakly struck coins with vibrant luster. If you took the series you could almost break it down into sub categories of years and mints with a particular type of luster (ie.. frosty, extremely brilliant, etc..). This 43 just doesn't look right to me or seem to fit the luster type I'm accustomed to seeing for that year. I apologize if I appear to be over-critical Pinenut. There's a good chance the photos are just deceiving me. I look at a lot of these and am speaking objectively.
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Hey Jesse, no offense taken. I'm just getting started on putting together this set. So if a lesson in luster costs me $13 then I'm OK with that. In the end, I just decided that I really liked these die flow lines even if it technically is indicative of a late-state die and drops it a grade. This 43 is certainly unique among the handful of MS examples I have looked at. Most others have a mirror smooth but dull finish. I'd be interested to hear more of your thoughts on the breakdown of luster. As much as I love this forum, there doesn't seem to be as much discussion of washquarts as Lincs or Morgans (naturally of course but I'm just saying...). Anxious as always to learn more.

Troy
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It is quite possible that the appearance of the luster is entirely a function of the seller's photography. When I was first learning how to use my digital camera to image coins and playing around with different lighting conditions, I had a few of my Washingtons turn out with a similar frosty appearance.
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Meanwhile, every one of these quarters appear to have been brushed with steel wool.
http://coins.shop.ebay.com/Washingt...3286.c0.m282

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