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Valued Member
United States
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So I have been researching, reading, looking over auctions, and, you know, doing the homework on making my first Bust purchase of any denomination. I particularly was trying to avoid an overly expensive coin, for the normal fears of overpaying for a dud. Tonight I won the first one I bid on, after a few days of not getting my buy prices.  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...TRK:MEWNX:ITI will be sure to update with photos when I get it in hand, but how do you think I did? I thought cleaned upon looking at it at first, but the reverse just doesn't sell me on cleaned at all. The risk is a new seller, but perfect thus far, and selling decent coins and getting decent feedback. I know its not AU, but I think I will be happy? 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Yes it was from a low feedback seller and the pics through the flip make it tough to tell, but it does look cleaned with rim problems.
The price was dirt cheap for what appears to be a choice EF piece at least. If you paid with PayPal using a credit card then you should be fine.
Keep us posted!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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probably cleaned, but not a bad price.
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 United States
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I think you did fine with the price, would like to see pictures when you receive the coin. I'd called it EF for now.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I say you did pretty good at least, if not very good if the coin is better in hand. Best to buy stuff ending at off hours...after 11 PM, before 5 PM, in the dead of the night (LOL!)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Nice bust half, RB. I have bought a couple recently, here is my opion: who care's if it's cleaned? Now if I was spending $100's or thousands on a high-end coin I might be concerned. If it has good eye appeal and is low-end who cares? I see lots of cleaned coins on epay and some go for big bucks. I'm sure not all these buyers are novices, I just don't understand the concern about "cleaned", it sure doesn't seem to affect the resale from what I have seen.
When I listen to LED ZEPPELIN...so do my neighbors... Roll hunting since '77 Dirt fishing since '72
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Quote: I just don't understand the concern about "cleaned", it sure doesn't seem to affect the resale from what I have seen.
All seem to agree that the $83 price was pretty realistic for this coin, assuming a cleaning, and that a grade of EF is appropriate. The most recent slabbed, original-surfaces EF example on Heritage sold for $184. I'd call that a bit of a difference. Me, I think the weak rims would drag this one down to VF35, but I think that closer examination might lead the owner to believe the surfaces are original.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Lower end EF. 40 I would say based on what I can see in the pictures. I will await clearer pictures to pipe in on the overton number.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: I just don't understand the concern about "cleaned" Simply put, a cleaned coin is a damaged coin so the value is affected accordingly. Obviously not all cleanings are equal, some much harsher than others, but once an original coin is cleaned there is no going back- it will always be worth less than an original uncleaned example. However, do not confuse cleaning with conservation which is acceptable by the majority of collectors. Conservation merely removes surface contaminants that may damage the coin and/or affect eye appeal but the coinage metal itself is not altered either mechanically or chemically. Quote: I see lots of cleaned coins on epay and some go for big bucks Never underestimate the number of bidiots and numismatic novices on Ebay 
Edited by biokemist6 02/17/2010 1:43 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Thanks for the insight guys, for I am a novice myself. ffd
When I listen to LED ZEPPELIN...so do my neighbors... Roll hunting since '77 Dirt fishing since '72
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Valued Member
United States
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Yeah, I've never understood the appeal of a coin with dirt, grease, and accumulated grime that obscures details. I prefer that my coins be free of grease and dirt, including skin oils that accelerate corrosion. Dishwashing soap and hot water, with maybe a very soft nylon brush to remove dirt and grease, followed by a rinse of distilled water and into a flip or airtight is my usual regimen. For really nasty coins, acetone is the treatment preferred.
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Valued Member
 United States
278 Posts |
The idea of a brush makes me... bristle?  I personally was thinking EF and not cleaned. I have a guess on the Overton already, but it is tough with the smaller photos. R-1, unfortunately. I keep checking the post... Still waiting on her.
Edited by rustyboy 02/17/2010 5:34 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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EF in Red Book says its worth $140 but I think its in VF which is listed at $90 So either way you made a good deal
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Valued Member
 United States
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  Well, the first photo shows it. Hairlines all over the obverse. In hand it was actually harder to tell. This photo says all. I guess she is on her way back...
Edited by rustyboy 02/19/2010 12:53 pm
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 United States
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Quote: Nice Original specimen. Quote: No Major Marks or defects. On the off chance there's a hassle, keep those two phrases from the auction in mind. They are the words which will prove your case to ebay, should it come to it.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Eh, just for giggles, post that obv pic and a rev pic in the variety section so someone can figure out the Overton number. You may have lucked out and gotten a good one- it would be worth checking first before sending back since your pic is of adequate size. I do not know much about Overton attribution but there are others here that can help 
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