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230436424416*** Edited by Staff - ebay link is dead, but continue for some good information on broadstrikes! ***
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Pillar of the Community
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their not broad strikes at all, their actually cupped dies, but either way they dont look real to me
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Pillar of the Community
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They look like broad struck coins. A capped die would look different
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Pillar of the Community
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They look as if they are made! not by the mint in error. The one is out of round, kind of like someone used a tool like a socket. One of them has reeding that can be seen a little. I do not know anything about this type of error, but if the coin had no collar I would think that there would be no reeding
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Bedrock of the Community
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hmmm...
Edited by biokemist6
02/18/2010 01:19 am
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hmmm... Quoted for Truth. It's hard to think of something which would do this, post-mint. I think they're real. The collar was there, just not in the proper position, and chances are the reeding visible in the pics is the only reeding on the coin. |
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I was thinking I don't know how they would do something like this out of mint also but also wanted to add I have never seen this type of coin with such sharp details. As everyone knows I don't do error coins so if you know how this could be done out of mint please enlighten me
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Pillar of the Community
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I by no means am an expert. But from what I am seeing they are made, if I have this wrong please let me know as it is the only way to increase knowledge. On the coin on the left, there is a secondary ring around the outer part of the coin from the die prior to the reeding that can only happen if the coin had a collar. Without a collar the planchet would just be pushed out and the edge of the die would not pronounced and have a second outer ring. On the reverse of this coin there is an inner ring that is cutting into the lower NE and DIM of one dime from some type of tool. As far as what type of tool any small pipe and socket would do it. Or so I think.
The second coin on the right I just see that it is out of round.
Just for giggles I think I will go and try to make a tool that will do this. I will post my results in a little bit.
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Just dreaming guys, but what would happen if you set-up the machine to run nickel planchets and then install dime dies. Would you not detthis effect with cupping in the direction of the strike from the hammer die?
Jim
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Bedrock of the Community
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nickels do not have reeding but as I said I have never seen this type of thing with the image so sharp but I am no error collector either so dont even know how this would be achieved out side of the mint but from the comments it seems some think it is
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Pillar of the Community
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Just to clarify.  If I spent about an hour on the (punch) to smooth it out and make it so the inner diameter came out just a little more, as well as just taking a little emery cloth to the cylinder. Anyone could just put a dime in the hole...hit it with a hammer one time and stamp them out like cookie's. As long as the (punches) ID was round enough they would look the same. And if you rolled the rim it would be almost impossible to tell the difference. I am not a Machinist and it took me 15 minutes  SO BUYER BEWARE  |
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....except those look nothing like broadstruck coins. Interesting research, especially on such short notice, though.
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Interesting topic for discussion--especially for my own edumacation  I looked at the listing, and maybe I'm seeing things--but is LIBERTY distorted on these two? The lower one almost looks spread outward a bit.  If so, can that be done post-mint? --just wondering here.  |
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Well I do not collect this type of error. And after seeing how easy it would be to fake I do not think I will start. Had I used a round tapered bit for my secondary hole and rounded my punch. I think I could make them.
I do not know enough to say that the ones posted are real. They do look odd to me, but like I said I do not collect them. I just keep coming up in my head some guy selling them for 8.00 to 15.00 each at a cost of .10 plus a listing fee. With all the games that seem to be played on the Bay I just hold this idem suspect.
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They are authentic broadstrikes.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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Posted 02/17/2010 11:37 pm
