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Fake S VDB?

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 Posted 02/18/2010  7:50 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Podoprigora to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Pretty sure it is, doesn't match any of the four dies.
http://cgi.ebay.com/1909S-VDB-Linco...XF_W0QQitemZ230436447752QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_US_Individual?hash=item35a7152608#ht_720wt_958
Fake-S-VDB?
(NOT MY PICTURE, BUT WHO EVER OWNS THIS ONE, WOULD YOU BE SO KIND TO TELL ME WHAT BOOK YOU GOT IT FROM?)
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02/18/2010 7:54 pm
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 Posted 02/18/2010  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jokingjoker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah doesn't look right.


Fake-S-VDB?

I guess the closest it would be is #1
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 Posted 02/18/2010  8:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Podoprigora to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I though so too but after looking closer you see it doesn't cross 9's like in a picture
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 Posted 02/18/2010  8:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimR to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The upper loop of the S appears to closed as well.

As for the reversde the middle bar of the B should be angled downward like so /
The middle bar on this coin appears to not be angled downward like it should.

I plan to buy an 09-S VDB this year but I will not buy one on line unless its certified and/or I know the person or company I am buying it from knows what they are doing.

Hopefully some of the other pros will be along to comment further on this one.
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 Posted 02/18/2010  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jokingjoker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I sent a message to the seller and asked if they were 100% positive it was authentic.
Just don't like to see stuff like that on ebay. Gives numismatist a bad rap.
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 Posted 02/18/2010  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twohawks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just enlarged it and placed them side by side. It looks like a number 3 to and the line on the photo is hiding part of the S and 0 and the placement look good.
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 Posted 02/18/2010  9:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jokingjoker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hard to tell, doesn't look like it lines up.

Fake-S-VDB?
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I can say the photo's to line up with, kind of suck..the lines are not consistent for referencing...some touch the zero and others don't....just looking at the "S" position to the 19......its too far to the left..of the 9, its under it by a bit......number one is the closest to be in line but not under and to the left...using those pictures for reference


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 Posted 02/18/2010  10:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aladinslamp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it could be some junk to the left of the MM that's under the 9?
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 Posted 02/18/2010  10:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rollhunter1994 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMO it looks the most like #1, but the mint mark is too low. I would say the coin in question is FAKE! I also looked at an Indian Head cent he just sold and the mint mark looks strange.

The coin also comes from "home town, United States" (China?)

http://cgi.ebay.com/1908S-Indian-He...TY_W0QQitemZ230436444417QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_US_Individual?hash=item35a7151901
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 Posted 02/18/2010  11:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Podoprigora to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I constantly sent sellers messages but once I say that its fake I dont hear back from them
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The MM doesn't look right. It looks like the commonly faked S mint mark.

I'll never understand why people bid up these questionable, raw key date coins on ebay. Just plain DUMB! If you're going to spend $1000, why not be 100% sure your coin is real and why not see it in hand? No way in heck am I going to blow a grand without holding the coin first.
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 Posted 02/19/2010  09:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AGCoinHunter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"A must for the fussy collector" -- well thats an odd way to put it.
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 Posted 02/19/2010  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
BadThad called it right:


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If you're going to spend $1000, why not be 100% sure your coin is real


You have to either REALLY know what you're looking for or you get a slabbed coin that someone else who knows what they're looking for has verified.

It's just WAY too much money to gamble with. (And a little heart-breaking when your dream coin turns out to be a fake.)
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I agree with BadThad and Moe.

It is not worth the gamble just to save some money. I would much rather "over pay" for the coin and buy it in person.
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 Posted 02/19/2010  12:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
However, there was 18 bidders, maybe, pending how many bidders are fakes too. Not sure if fake since MM's were placed on the coins after they were minted so not perfect in authenticating with out close exam. Still I really don't see how anyone could take a chance for that much money.
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