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@Stewart Thanks for the detailed descriptions and links - I really appreciate them b/c I can see what you are talking about now!  I should have just done this yesterday though:   Clash 1: I can now see the Moon Line Die Clash. I think the overlays show the line under the wingtip is actually a hairline from Ike. Clash2: I am puzzled by the website definition of: Quote:
The you is the clash image of the first you of "UNUM" on the reverse: The "U" is easy to see in their pic (also posted an outlined one):  But the overlays show this "U" nowhere near the "E" in "WE" (see above). Even if the die is rotated, as in the following pic) to put the "U" in a position to clash with the "E," the you is at an angle - not like the one in their pic at all - see yellow hand in 2nd pic.  How does something like this happen? Can one of the experts chime in? syntax edit Edited by Earle42
02/09/2012 5:32 pm
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Earle42, I can see where the train fell of the tracks I think. Been there many times with Ike's, O' Boy have I. When I get a train of thought going on something and get stuck. That is why I do not sell hardly any Ike's. Because there has been numerous times I have gone over the same coin more than one time and have not seen what was there, because I had it in my head that something was not there. Also many time that something was there that was not. All part of the wonderful world of Eisenhower's. Because so little research has been done over the years on this series. The last 4 years that I have been studying them, I have seen more discoveries made in that one series of coin, than all the other series of coins combined since I began collecting back in 79. Here is another overlay that is lined up. I am pretty sure you will see where the "U" lines up. I hope this helps Terry  |
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NYBrian84 Are you asking if any of the pictures you posted are 1972 P Type 2 Reverse Ike's ? If so then no they are Type 1 and Type 3 Earth's Whether you should save them is dependent on how into it you are. There are many other Eisenhower dollar Varieties besides the Type 2 reverse. And to see them would take pictures of the whole coins. And even then some of the varieties do not show up in photos. It depends on the angle they are shot at. If you are interested in the Eisenhower dollar series there has been a Great Book just released called COLLECTIBLE IKE VARIETIES - FACTS, PHOTOS and THEORIES It is bar none one the most in depth books I have seen on the Eisenhower dollar Series. Here is a link where you can get your hands on a copy http://www.lulu.com/product/paperba...ies/18703664I hope this helps Terry Edited by stewart
02/11/2012 07:51 am
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HI stewart - thanks for the clarification. Oh Boy was I off the tracks, Got my Eagle backwards! My brain fog had me forgetting to read UNUM backwards  Oh well - makes for fun things to look back and laugh about. And I am still foggy - First I thought I had forgotten to read UNUM backwards - now I see the whole eagle is! How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halveshttps://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2Edited by Earle42
02/11/2012 08:47 am
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Earle42 like I said Boy O Boy have I been there. Many Many Many Times And you are absolutely right. It is a blast to think back about some of the places my head went. Makes me crack up laughing every time. Then the wife will ask "What is so funny?" I will tell her, and her response usually is to question my sanity Terry |
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One of my Ikes:  On the rough side, bought form the coin dealer at about melt price ($8) ca. New Years this year. Poor thing was not well taken care of by the owner prior to him. I figured at least I'd have an exemplar of the Type I out of the deal. |
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 (Photo- Rob Ezerman- The Ike Group, All Rights Reserved) Here's a beautiful close up shot of a 1971-S Proof DDO-009 that I naked eye cherried from a local coin dealer. The coin is DCAM on the obverse but fully brilliant on the reverse- so I doubt that this will get a CAM or DCAM designation. Probably a PR69, however... sending it off to ANACS! $250-$350 value (about $1,000 if it was a DCAM). |
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Nice find cc99999!
How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halveshttps://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2 |
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 One of the few gem 1972 Type 1 Ikes. Thought it had a real shot at 66, but that small hit above In God We Trust held it back. Still a beautiful Ike and a toner! |
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argentum, Very Cool Coin, It is not very often that I have seen a Silver San Fransisco Mint Eisenhower dollar that has that nice well circulated look to it. I like that look on Morgan dollars also. Thank You for sharing it. cc99999, Congratulations on the 1971-S Proof DDO-009  I love finding those Ike's that way. Beautiful 1972-P also  do not know if it just my eyes this morning or what, but the left leg "R" on the 72 sure looks mighty "Straight" with a lack of serifs. Or it could be my eyes are getting bad and I may need larger pictures I spent the weekend going over the 1971 D FEV's Brian Vaile has made another discovery coin. 1971 D Eisenhower RDV-006 WDDR 003. New Double Die Reverse on the 71 D Friendly Eagle Variety. Here is a link to Wexler's description and photos. http://www.doubleddie.com/372522.html Brian sure does have a talent for spotting those varieties |
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I'm surprised that you think highly of my 1976s, stewart. I'd've thought that the treatment that it got before reaching my dealer's hands would destroy the chance for such praise.
Surely it would have come in something protective, as-issued from the SF mint, and should have stayed there.
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argentum,
The reason that I think so highly about the 76 "S" is, that those coins were made and distributed by the mint to be Only collector coins. And not made to be put into regular circulation.
Yours looks like it may have circulated in the general population for quite awhile before someone recognized that it was Silver and pulled it from circulation. The fact that we have not had Silver in our coins since 1964 and your coin was put out by the mint in 1976. And it circulated for some time. Means a nice chunk of Silver slipped through a bunch of hands before someone recognized that it was Silver.
A worn Silver Eisenhower is what I consider a conditional rarity. It is rare to find them in that condition. Because they were made for collectors to store and preserve not for circulation. Meaning there are less of them than one you would find in great shape.
Then again it could have been someones pocket piece and gotten worn
Regardless an honestly worn Silver Ike is rarer than one in say MS60. That does not mean it will be worth more money because people generally do not look at it that way because they usually want the prettiest coin in the best condition. And for my personal taste some coins with honest wear on them just look like they have a story behind them,because they have traveled.
Terry
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02/15/2012 08:52 am
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stewart,
So, for most coin collectors, the value has been reduced to melt value by the effects of circulation. But for some, those effects have added eye appeal.
It's not outside the realm of possibility that mine would be preferred by a few of my fellow collectors over a perfect, uncirculated exemplar. You probably would have snapped it up just for those reasons, then, and not just because it's a Type I.
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It's not outside the realm of possibility that mine would be preferred by a few of my fellow collectors over a perfect, uncirculated exemplar. You probably would have snapped it up just for those reasons, then, and not just because it's a Type I. Exactly, You are dead on right, I would have snapped it right up
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This one showed up in the mail today. When I saw the pictures I could just barely make out a shorter left leg on the "R". It turned out to be shorter than I thought  Terry  |
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