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One Bad Thing Pt. II

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 Posted 06/16/2006  7:40 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Kerry67 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I started this post as part two to get everyone who posted to read it. Why everyone thinks I don't understand the rule is beyond me. I fully understand the purpose. Perhaps I should have stated that to "buy" you should not need 50 posts. After all, you send the money BEFORE the merchandise is sent, so how would that hurt ? Money not received, the seller sends nothing and is out nothing and you learn that the so called buyer is an idiot. I can see that you need 50 posts to sell so everyone can learn something about you and see that you are trust-worthy and not just out to get someones cash.

A lot of peoples post's almost sounded like bashing to me. "Thingee" said my post was based on nothing. I dis-agree. It was based on MY opinion. And since I am not a moderator and this is not MY site, I must follow the rules of those in charge. So, again, I state that it was my opinion. I will post when I feel the need and someday I will reach the 50 posts

When people say that the purpose of selling/buying/trading is not the main thing of the site, I agree. BUT, it is a huge part. Why would it not be ? What better way to get coins than a fellow collector and not someone who is just out to make a huge profit ? Dealing with folks whom you have something is common is the best way to deal I think.

See you on the boards....
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 Posted 06/16/2006  9:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gary Burke to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have visited eight coin sites, belonged to four of them, and selected this one as my home because it makes me feel at home, and that the members are almost like a family.

Point is, I don't think this forum's members would ever want to feel they were "bashing" anyone. I'm not a moderator, but I would say, speaking for myself, you have every right to your opinion, and to me much of what you state is fact.

So, hope you still feel welcome, and sincerely trust you will enjoy being here.
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 Posted 06/16/2006  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dog Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, as long as we're listing complaints, I make a motion that after each 10 posts a person should receive a Morgan dollar. In addition, upon reaching 50 posts, a person shall be entitled to a one ounce gold eagle
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 Posted 06/16/2006  9:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Kerry67 I can understand what you are saying about if the buyer doesn't have 50 posts it shouldnt matter because of the reasons you stated. We do however have to go by each and every rule that this forum has (which isn't alot) even though sometimes I may not fully agree with some of them. I do feel this forum has some of the most friendly and knowledgable people here that has taught me alot and I know they will do the same for anyone else that is a member here. I think that maybe it should be at the sellers discretion if he requires 50 posts to allow a sale to any individual but as I stated I have to go by the rules just like everyone else. It would probably be easy to just email the person with less than 50 posts if they showed interest and handle it off the boards if the seller saw fit to do so but on the boards I think we should respect the owners of this forums rules that they saw fit to make, I am sure they didnt make any of them up to alienate anyone and didnt decide on any of the rules without thinking it through fully. I for one couldnt care less if someone posted a few one liners or even one word posts to get their 50 post minimum (like "yep" in one post and so forth) and I am sure others dont either because even if its a 1 word post atleast you are participating and that is always a good thing
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06/16/2006 9:48 pm
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 Posted 06/16/2006  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fengk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Dog Man

Well, as long as we're listing complaints, I make a motion that after each 10 posts a person should receive a Morgan dollar. In addition, upon reaching 50 posts, a person shall be entitled to a one ounce gold eagle


I second that motion! lol...
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 Posted 06/16/2006  11:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by fengk

quote:
Originally posted by Dog Man

Well, as long as we're listing complaints, I make a motion that after each 10 posts a person should receive a Morgan dollar. In addition, upon reaching 50 posts, a person shall be entitled to a one ounce gold eagle


I second that motion! lol...



too bad you both would be ineligable since you have already surpassed those two milestones
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 Posted 06/16/2006  11:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kerry67 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the reply's everyone. Sorry it turned into a mini soap opera....that was not the intention !! Now, back to the coin chat.........

Cheers !
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 Posted 06/16/2006  11:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The_Cave_Troll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I respect your difference of opinion, however it is one of the house rules and I doubt it will change. This is a nice forum, but if your primary decision maker/breaker is the length of wait before buying/selling there are other good coin forums that have shorter waits. In fact one of them is my forum home. Each forum is slightly different and all of them are populated with some very nice people, so look around and see how they are. One will fit you best and that is where you will do most of your posting. I routinely post on all of the forums I frequent, and I enjoy them all immensely, but one is my favorite, you need to find yours! Good luck and enjoy the ride!
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06/16/2006 11:15 pm
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 Posted 06/17/2006  12:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add toast to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Dog Man

Well, as long as we're listing complaints, I make a motion that after each 10 posts a person should receive a Morgan dollar. In addition, upon reaching 50 posts, a person shall be entitled to a one ounce gold eagle



Dog Man, you should be congradulated for offerering to fund this great Idea. I'm sure you'll get a lot of new members posting and contacting you for their Morgans and Gold eagles after this Very generous offer. LOL, "IF ONLY" you could afford to do that.
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 Posted 06/17/2006  01:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add djluster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
for the rule of 50 post before you can buy/sell/trade. I think this is a great rule mainly because in 50 post you can get a feel of a person and see if you feel safe with that person. also we do not what the b/s/t to fell up with people who just want to sell there stuff and not be a help to other collector t help them learn. I no for me it make it easer for me to trade with soemone I have read there post even if they are just short sentances. I will use ebay as a example. I know most of us will not buy a coin form someone who has less then 5 feedback rating. For the fact as soon as we see some feedback for other we knw it is a little easyer to trust the. SO we would not want to get a bunch of member we don't no or trust selling things.just my few thoughts.
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 Posted 06/17/2006  10:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Kerry, your point about buying is well-stated and I'd fully support a change in the rules which allowed a new member to buy. My only disagreement is in the relative importance of the buy/sell section of the site - this is, viewed realistically, a very small group and as such only a very small selection of items will be available for sale/trade.

Consider that, as I write this, there are over 106,000 separate auctions for US coins on ebay.

Your point about profit is also well-taken, and it's the main purpose for buying and selling here at all. We are much less likely to try and make our living from our fellow members here than I might be on ebay. Having said that, I still need to make a profit on selling my coins (partly so I can give others away here ), so I'm not likely to sell much at Coin Community.

You have raised what I think is an important topic, one which deserves to be fully discussed as much for the benefit of those who are reading it without posting, as for your own benefit.
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 Posted 06/17/2006  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey everyone...kerry67 has a full understanding of the point of the 50 post rule and appreciates everyones comments and opinions. Now Kerry just wants to continue posting and enjoying the CCF. Can I suggest that we all move on now?

If someone would like to further discuss this topic perhaps it can be done under a new thread. I highly doubt that there will be any different answers than all of the described in Kerry's part I and part II thread however.

I just think that it's time to move out of this thread, as it has been clearly understood by all. It seems unjust to keep lingering on the same point.
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 Posted 06/17/2006  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fengk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well said, dsking. I think that we just need to bury this post and the one before it and move on.
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 Posted 06/17/2006  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joeyuk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 50 post rule here even for buying is for good reason also. No system is foolproof but buyers have done chargebacks thru say PayPal after receiving product. Also when I deposit a check it will show cashed a couple days later, and still bounce up to a month after that. I am only pointing this out for those who say anyone should be abel to buy if they pay upfront.
I sell on e-bay and would prefer to give stuff away or trade here.
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 Posted 06/17/2006  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thekidcollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Buying ight be trading aswell, and some people I have sold to paid after I sent the coin which also differs with the Buyer?Seller.

DogMan I love youre Idea Thanks for volunteering as Toast Stated. I hope to see the Morgans soon :P

*LOL*
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 Posted 06/17/2006  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Kerry

Although Buying is definitely on the other end of the spectrum from selling,, The fact is it takes a seller and a Buyer to have a transaction,,

To limit one of the parties to 50 posts and not the other would or could be alienating the other.it would be like saying that all buyers are seen as upright and honest and all sellers are looked at with a critcal eye,, anyone who has done much buying on ebay or other venues knows that buyers are not always upright individuals.

My opinion is that equality is best and I would oppose a change in the rules based upon this fact alone at this time ,,

One other point of interest concerning the 50 post regulation on Buyers is that it is also a way of allowing our forum to take advantage of the coins offered forsale,some folks would sign up buy and never contribute to the forum .

Discussion is always welcome when something of this type appears in a thread, and all opinions are welcome.

The forum Admin I'm sure will read and post an opionion also as time allows.

If you like you can pose the question in the suggestion and feedback forum, and allow the discussion to continue in that forum,, while waiting for Mom and Dad to get finished moving .

or if asked by Kerry I will move this thread there and allow discussion to continue on this thread in that forum .

Rick



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06/17/2006 12:49 pm
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