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 Posted 03/05/2010  12:16 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add HippieOutcast to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-NAZI-COIN-...-4_W0QQitemZ a href= https://www.coincommunity.com/go/link.asp?target=https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/170453597668 target= _blank rel= nofollow 170453597668 /a QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_US_Individual?hash=item27afd37de4

HOO BOY! NAZI! SWASTIKA! HITLER!

^^

Use the above words in caps to sell coins for stupid money.

Warning - only shameless promoters need apply.
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 Posted 03/05/2010  12:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tim Stroud to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The shame falls upon the bidders in this case as far as I am concerned. They are the ones who bid up the price that high. They have done it on all the sellers offerings. With the exception of the word "rare", the rest of the wording rings true. Hitler and the Nazi party were in power in 1941, the coin was minted in Berlin as stated and it was WWII.
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 Posted 03/05/2010  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weerdsteev to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what you find objectionable about this...? Please elaborate. Thanks!
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03/05/2010 12:56 pm
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 Posted 03/05/2010  1:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HippieOutcast to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, if you don't find it objectionable, there's no point in arguing it. To me its plain as day.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Germany-1941-A-...ce_W0QQitemZ a href= https://www.coincommunity.com/go/link.asp?target=https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/250511870050 target= _blank rel= nofollow 250511870050 /a QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3a53abc862
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03/05/2010 1:19 pm
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 Posted 03/05/2010  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimR to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
While I do not have any Nazi regime coins in my collection and I don't plan to ever acquir a Nazi regime/era coin they are a legitimate part of coin collecting as it was a legitimate albeit sad part of history.

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 Posted 03/05/2010  1:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weerdsteev to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not arguing...I'm just confused. Maybe it's plain to you but the light bulb is not coming on for me. Maybe it's because I know nothing about foreign coins. Maybe it's just the whole Nazi thing that is objectionable? Please, even at the risk of embarrassing me, spell it out for me....I just don't get it. (Are the coins fakes? he doesn't seem to be making BIG money on them...)
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 Posted 03/05/2010  1:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HippieOutcast to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Right, and I'm not denying that, but no one sees anything wrong with shameless promotion to make an extra buck?
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 Posted 03/05/2010  1:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HippieOutcast to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh, sorry Steve, I just don't agree with how some people market German coins from that era. If you throw, Nazi, swastika, Hitler, rare, in the title, you get people to bid crazy money on them. If you don't, well look at the second link I posted, its ridiculous.
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 Posted 03/05/2010  3:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weerdsteev to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your second link is a coin that is selling for a BUY IT NOW price of $1.09! How will anyone bid CRAZY MONEY on it if it has a BUY IT NOW price of only $1.09? Here's his title: Germany 1941-A 1 Reishspfennig Coin...Very Nice !" The only thing wrong with THAT is that "Reishpfennig" is spelled wrong. I'm still not getting it. I'm still confused.
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 Posted 03/05/2010  5:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Billie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's just not a rare coin. The rare coins are the occupation coins with the wreath & swastika removed.
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 Posted 03/05/2010  7:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weavus135 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't find collecting these coins objectionable (I own one) I also don't really have an issue with someone calling something rare. I agree with an earlier post, it is really uninformed bidders that drive me crazy. Just recently there has been a series of commercials by Dominos pizza. They actually took Papa Johns (I think) to court over their claims about 'the best pizza'. In essence their defense was 'in our opinion, we do have the best'. the same really goes for the sellers on ebay. From the perspective of that era of history, one could argue that Rwanda, Sudan, China and a host of other countries' coins would fall into the same category.
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 Posted 03/05/2010  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wheatguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree, there is nothing wrong with the auction. Yes, the Caps and the hype annoys me a bit, but other than that it is only naive collectors bidding that high.
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 Posted 03/05/2010  7:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add omahaorange to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"shameless promotion to make an extra buck" is a big part of capitalism. You see this every day. Do you think "sex sells" is not the same thing? The problem is the bidders, not the seller. It's the buyers that set the market conditions, not the sellers. As far as the Nazi aspect, I own a few Nazi coins. Its part of the past, whether we like it or not. A lot of these coins were brought back by the brave men who fought in that conflict, along with other souvenirs.
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 Posted 03/05/2010  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HippieOutcast to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have no qualms about what they are selling. Its how - in this specific instance, the marketing seems a bit unscrupulous.

I'm surprised at how many people are okay with the tactics, especially after seeing countless threads about misrepresented coins. How is this any different?

Once again - I have NO issue with the coin being sold, just how they are represented.
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 Posted 03/05/2010  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add schmidty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with HO.

On the first auction he linked to, here is the title:

RARE~NAZI~COIN 1941 A-1 Swastika WW2 SS German Set #2/4

A. It's not RARE
B. It's not #2/4 of an SS German set

Now, the description:

WORLD WAR II HITLER'S NAZI GERMANY 1941
RARE MINT MARK OF (A) FROM BERLIN - #2/4
VERY NICE 2nd YEAR (1) REICHSPEFNNIG COIN


A. The Berlin mint mark is hardly RARE. There were 281 million of this coin minted in Berlin that year.
B. Again, where is this #2/4 coming from?
C. "VERY NICE" is subjective, but I would not call this coin that. And when used in conjunction with "RARE", It could lead uninformed seller to assume this is about as nice as they come.
D. "2nd YEAR" is misleading. It is not the second year of the Third Reich. It is not the second year they produced a 2 Reichspfennig. What it IS, is the second year this coin was produced in zinc.

Yes I understand all the arguments about salesmanship, and "bragging-up" your product. But, I think this listing may have crossed the line. Actually, the proof that it crossed the line is in the ridiculous price that was paid for it.

Just my two pfennigs worth
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03/05/2010 8:31 pm
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 Posted 03/05/2010  8:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add schmidty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just stumbled across this one...wow

http://cgi.ebay.com/SWASTIKA-GERMAN...W2_W0QQitemZ a href= https://www.coincommunity.com/go/link.asp?target=https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/260560145183 target= _blank rel= nofollow 260560145183 /a QQcategoryZ4078QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo=DLSL%252BSIC&its=I%252BC&itu=UCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%252BDDSIC&otn=10&po=&ps=63&clkid=8291878062791075530

From the description:

Quote:
These coins were buried as the Allied forces approached and the Germans have dug up the last coins. Supplies are drying up. No other type of coin is going up in price faster. No other type of coin is going up in price faster


He's obviously a graduate of the PT Barnum School of Business!
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