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benchede Valued Member United States 112 Posts	Posted 03/11/2010 10:29 am Having collected for several months now (still-a-newbe),and have a lot of coins slabbed. I've noticed some slabs that show no MS's. Example: a 1875cc 20cent was marked as, "PCGS Genuine" and that's all. Does this mean that its an old certified slab? How long back did they first start using MS's? Am I lost in the woods here Report this Post to the Staff

oimcoins Valued Member United States 149 Posts	Posted 03/11/2010 10:44 am It means it is a "problem" coin of some sort. The first number shows a .9#(some other number) Like a .92 is a cleaning. Others numbers are damage, or other problems. I do not have a list of what they all mean and if anyone does, it would be helpful. Report this Post to the Staff
oimcoins Valued Member United States 149 Posts	Posted 03/11/2010 10:46 am And that is relatively new process. PCGS only recently started slabbing problem coins, but they will not assign a grade to one. Report this Post to the Staff
Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 03/11/2010 11:53 am MS grading started at PCGS in Feb 1986. The "Genuine" slabs started only around a year ago. (Coins marked with just About Uncirculated or Brilliant Uncirculated were first made for bulk submitters about six years ago. Eight if you include the Collectors Universe slabbed WTC coins. But those were slabbed by CU not PCGS. When PCGS started slabbing WTC coins they used numerical grades.) Edited by Conder101 03/11/2010 11:55 am Report this Post to the Staff
oimcoins Valued Member United States 149 Posts	Posted 03/11/2010 1:12 pm Found it! * 91 Artificially Colored * 92 Cleaned * 93 Planchet (Coin Blank) Flaw * 94 Altered Surface * 95 Scratched or Rim Dented * 97 Environmentally Damaged * 98 Other Damage Report this Post to the Staff
benchede Valued Member United States 112 Posts	Posted 03/11/2010 10:57 pm Thanks for all the info. It goes to show you that "I" better read more when I look at slabbed coins. Report this Post to the Staff
Bryan1315 Bedrock of the Community United States 14454 Posts	Posted 03/12/2010 2:02 pm until last year the only way to get a problem coin in a slab was to either send it to ANACS or NCS. These two companies (NCS was part of NGC company) would put a numerical grade but list the problem on the label. NGC and PCGS wouldn't even put the coin in a slab if it was a problem coin, they would just send it back to you in a flip (called a body bag by collectors) and keep the grading fee you paid. Last year NGC and PCGS started putting these problem coins in slabs but PCGS will not assign a grade just let you know it is an authentic coin (which is what allot want to know especially on key date coins, the old way you still didn't know if it was authentic or not if they thought it had problems) NGC I think will assign a grade the same way NCS used to do but put the problem on the label. ANACS is still the same way it always has been, they will grade and encapsulate any coin as long as its authentic but if it has problems they will put what they feel the problem is on the label Report this Post to the Staff
Jaobler Pillar of the Community United States 6381 Posts	Posted 03/12/2010 5:19 pm ICG will now also slab problem coins. They started doing that maybe 3 years ago. PCGS and NGC eventually followed suit, no doubt figuring they were missing an opportunity to sell their services to folks who already know they have problem coins! The ICG "problem slab" label provides a details grade and a statement of the problem type, I believe. Report this Post to the Staff
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