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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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yeah I don't think the 100 point scale will ever be main stream and if PCGS sticks their neck out on that one it may get chopped off and I believe that know that
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Moderator
 United States
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Wishful thinking but maybe it will be that they are lowering their submission prices!
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Valued Member
United States
436 Posts |
I really think it is going to be a computerized grading system, combined with lower submission fees. They will probably give you the option to have the coins graded by computer or by a human and list the price and time differential. Then denote the grading choice on a new label, like white for human and pale blue for computer.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: by computer or by a human It would be interesting to see the differences in grading there.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I hope computers never grade...that scares me.
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 United States
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Quote: I hope computers never grade...that scares me I would much prefer it. The technology and software has existed for years - it's a fairly simple thing to scan a coin's surface with enough accuracy to differentiate between luster breaks and scratches. You can weight the result for location - scratches on a cheek count more than ones in the field, for instance - and a given quantity/percent of surface marred by marks equates to a specific grade. The biggest hurdle would be deciding "How many scratches constitute MS63?" A database built on human evaluations would need to be built, but once there's a large enough sample the computer could take over easily. The last step could be a human evaluation for "eye appeal," possibly adding weight to a grade, or possibly just leading to something like the NGC "star" designation. PCGS has had this process patented since the 90's. They just don't use it.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The computer will get tired of working for "the man" and start a war between PCGS, NGC and ANACS and they will destroy each other with nukes. In the apocolyptic coin grading future, only basement slabbers and chop shop slabbers will remain.
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Valued Member
India
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i am from the future and strangely my history never mentioned the war?
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Valued Member
United States
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100 Point scale? They don't even utilize the 70 point scale now Let's see... 1,2,3,4,6,8,10,12,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,53,55,58,60-70. That's 30 numbers they use... why not make it a 30 point scale instead?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The scale that is used now is supposed to be a 70 point scale but you're right,they seem to overlook many numbers in between the ones they favor.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: They don't even utilize the 70 point scale now Let's see... 1,2,3,4,6,8,10,12,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,53,55,58,60-70. That's 30 numbers they use... why not make it a 30 point scale instead?
I've always wondered and I've heard some explantions/justifications....but I still don't like it either. If the numbers are there, use them.
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United States
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I just don't understand how Good has 2, Fine has 2, VF has 4, EF/XF has 2, AU has 4, MS has 11. If EF/XF had 4 as well, I'd be cool with it. I mean AU uses 50, 53, 55, 58. But XF with the same range, only using 40 and 45....? Reminds me of the scoring of Tennis. 
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Valued Member
India
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grading is value driven thats why it has more numbers at the top. for example usually the difference between a 67 to 68 is more than 35 over a 45.
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Valued Member
United States
149 Posts |
I do agree MS needs to be that high... but the consistency through the rest of them is lacking.
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I can also see a new slab design. I really like the current PCGS slabs. I have a suspicion with all the Chinese counterfeiting going on, there will be new security features in place as well. What, I don't know. With the advent of an extremely sophisticated grading program, and as Super pointed out, scanning a coins surface with a powerful program and very expensive lens, I can see this as only being beneficial to the numismatic community. I would not get rid of human graders. I would use them for the eye appeal factor should they use a star system, as well as the integrity of the slab before leaving PCGS. Their salaries I imagine will drop significantly.
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Edited by vermontensium 03/17/2010 12:49 am
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