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JFK - 1982 P - No FG / Partial G Etc

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Hello all,
After going through boxes of halves, I have come across 3 82-P NO FG's. I have also come across some that have a faint G / faint FG.

My question is - Is there anything wrong / errors with the faintly struck FG / G, and are they worth holding onto? I also have one where it looks like someone tried to alter the FG area by tapping it in as it has indentations. I am holding on to this as a reference.

Sorry, I do not have any pics, but if you have seen these you will know what I speak of.

Thanks
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If I understand correctly, the no FG is from an overpolished die. If that is the case, MAYBE your G/faint G are stages in between. Can you see the telltale scratches in that area? Just wondering if you do, if they match each other. You might be able to see the sequence in them. That would be really cool!
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Scooby,
After looking / starring at these for a while I do see the different stages. Some are clean and some have minute scratches. I am somewhat cautious of the ones that have scratches as I do not know if it's intentional or not. But, my main question is, are these errors or not? One dealer suggested that I hold onto to the partial G's and may be in 20 years folks might consider them as collectibles.

I did see your other post, however I am new to this and am not sure if I follow the whole thing about polished dies.

Peace
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There are some more seasoned pros on here that can answer your questions better than I can. I'm not sure if they are technically considered errors. I don't personally consider them errors, but more like "different or interesting" at best. But, yes, I do keep them, especially the more dramatic ones.

I'm sure there may be many reasons that a die can get polished, but one simple reason is in the case of a die clash. If the two dies come together and there is no coin between them, sometimes they can leave impressions on each other. Sometimes these impressions will show up on the coins minted after the clash. Sometimes, after a clash, they will take the dies and "polish" away the marks that have been left behind. When they do this, they leave behind the minor scratches that you see. (Look at the missing Lincoln pic I posted and you see heavy polishing and scratches.)

Like I said, more seasoned pros could explain this better and give more examples. I'm still new to all of this, but I try to answer questions because I know it can be frustrating to wait for a response, and also when I'm wrong - you'll hear about it and definitely get an answer!

Plus, I think it is only fair that newbies answer newbie questions that the pros have already answered a gazillion times. It's time for us to pay our dues and let them answer the more in depth questions that you and I will be asking later on as our collecting maturity grows.
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After polishing, the fields will have die scratches. Eventually in time the scratches will flatten and appear no cleaning has happened or the evidence was removed. But the cleanings result in devices weakening. Just another amazement that people collect these as well as other popular ones.
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