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I am not sure what to make of this grade. MS Business strike or PL? The coin has a mirror finish and has a light cameo on the obverse. No cameo on the reverse. It does appear to be from a PL set if I compare with my other 1954 silver dollars. But I am confused by the MS-63 grade. I also found a few ANACS Graded MS-63/64 'PL' Morgan dollars. Your thoughts?  |
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Pics don't do it justice.I wouldn't even give it a MS.
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Witty, Agree. But this was a scan. Camera photos are usually more forgiving than scanners. This coin is definitely well above circulated grades.  |
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United States
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MS coins can be PL and even DPL/DMPL but can not be PR or PF (according to which TPG is doing the grading). PL just means it has proof like fields but it doesn't mean its a proof coin |
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I had a 1953 MS/PL dollar like this and called ANACS. They would not give me a clear answer on what it meant. They said that the PL designation meant that it had PL surfaces. They would not commit to it being "proof like" or not in the normal sense of the word. They don't have a straight PL grade for Canadian dollars. Some of the later ones I've seen as MS/PL clearly were proof like (and intended by the mint to be so).
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I'm not familiar with the types of mintages for 1954 Canadian. But, nomally the MS designation is for a business strike coin and the PL indicates the appearance and quality of the strike. This is normally attributed to the coin being one of the first coins minted before the dies take on wear from multiple strikes. nlp
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Thank you all for your comments.
Steve, I had a feeling this was ANACS way of grading coins with mirror surfaces. I just wonder what grade I would get from ICCS, or CCCS... Is this coin truly from a PL set?
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this coin appears to have come from a PL set. So PL 63 would be the correct grade....by Canadian Standards....or NBU as the donkey in Toronto calls it now.
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I think this is a better comparison. Side by side picture with another MS 1954.  |
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Look at the rims of both coins. Do you see a difference?
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Good point Coins! Yes! Ok - so PL coins have thicker rims then?
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Much flatter, well struck and not near as rounded. So now you can see PL vs MS
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This begs the question, any business strike MS 1954 with a thick rim out there? Does the thick rim differentiation apply to all PL's? Looking at my 1955 PL vs MS, both have thick rims.  |
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Strike Quality and the Rims is what I use.LOL PL is PL, MS is Circulating coinage. I think both the 55's are PL. One Cameo one Heavy Cameo.
Edited by coinsrfun
03/21/2010 8:33 pm
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Coinsrfun,
Can you apply the same "rim" logic to 1953s (both SF and NSF which have very different rims anyway) and can the "rim" logic be applied to help identify specimens?
Thanks,
Steve
And yes, I do "troll" here looking for high quality PL material, so far with absolutely no success.
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Thanks crf,
The problem is the 1955 in the left is an ARNPRIOR variety w/DB and according to Charlton this coin is only available in MS! This is so confusing.
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Posted 03/21/2010 3:56 pm
