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Ok, so I've been diving into all of these junk SLQ lots. I make decisions based on limited information, and took a long shot on this one. I think I found a dateless 1916 slq, but I only have so many pixels to work with. I've seen literally hundreds of obvious dateless 1917s, so it stuck out like a sore thumb to me. It's the first one I've seen in months of searching that looks really close to me. I won it, but the lot ended up going quite aways above melt, so I think someone else was thinking the same thing I was. I have a 7 day return policy in case I'm wrong(or the coin is a counterfeit 1916 wannabe), so I didn't risk much more than shipping. Anyways, I've put together this picture with 5 dateless ones that I believe to be 1917, and 1 that I believe is a 1916. I'm curious if other people think they can differentiate the diagnostics based on these pictures too. Or am I just seeing what I "want" to believe?    Edited by johnny54321
03/22/2010 9:36 pm
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The bad pics definitely hurt, but everything is 1917, except possibly the bottom right, like DylansDad said. Let us know when you receive the coins.
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I've just been reading up on these the last couple of weeks. My 1916 determination was based upon the shield "rivets", I know...that's not the right term.
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I also am going with the lower right. The left robe fold at the bottom (outside Liberty's right foot) is different (much flatter) than the other coins' robe folds. A definite give-away. The head on the 1916 also goes a bit higher into the dentil ring than the 1917 but that's tough to see on the lower right coin. Good score, my friend!  |
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Bottom right. Robe and rivets along with head location.
I've been doing the same thing you do Johnny - and I make sure I avoid your SLQ lots on the bay...LOL.
I must've missed this one......nice catch!
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What is different between the rivets in 1916 and 1917 Type I?
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What is different between the rivets in 1916 and 1917 Type I? The rivets are much more pronounced on the '17 from my recollection. Or is that more pronounced on the type 2?  No, I think my first comment is right, because these are all type 1 (via the hair). |
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I would like to which devices you are judging to date these SLQ's. thank you
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Johnny you said you have a 7 day return policy if you're wrong, but I don't think it would be right to return the lot if they all are 1917 dateless Type 1. Seller never claims 1916 is in the lot does he/she? Nice find, though if it's right!
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Newbie trying to learn something
I would like to which devices you are judging to date these SLQ's. thank you
The 1916 SLQ's had no stars below the eagle on the reverse, and a modification to the design in 1917 to cover the exposed breast of liberty on the obverse. The eagle is arranged higher as well. |
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Thank you you must have a very trained eye ,I have difficulty seeing any difference in these images except slight differences in grade.I guess that comes with time and experience.
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See this site here for diagnostics: http://www.anacs.com/contentPages/S...kieSupport=1 Both bottom right and the middle right have narrower drapery on the right leg but based on the photos provided, I can't tell about Liberty's hair to make a call. All the pictures on left are definitely 1917 type 1 and top right is 1917 Type 1. Need better close-up pictures of middle right and bottom right. |
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Thank you you must have a very trained eye ,I have difficulty seeing any difference in these images except slight differences in grade.I guess that comes with time and experience.
Actually, no trained eye here, its more knowledge of the coin, which I obtained reading from the RedBook. My collection preferences are dollars and halves, but I am thinking of expanding into older date quarters like the SLQ, Barbers, and possibly seated libertys. Anyhow, before the design was modified in 1917 there were already about 12,201,200 of the original design with no stars below the eagle struck in 1917(Variety 1). After the modifications were made in 1917, 25,656,400 of the modified design, or Variety 2, for the remainder of 1917. Edited by AMFCook
03/23/2010 10:39 am
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DRAY: Both 1916 and 1917 Type 1 have no stars under the eagle on the reverese and the Eagle's position is different. Stars is key diagnostic pick-up point. On the Obverse, the bottom drapery on the right and left legs are more rounded, while Type 2 (1917 T2 and 1918-30) have slanted drapery. Also the hair in Type I coins curls upwards, while it goes down more in Type II coins. Hope that helps!
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thank you for all the variety help.I recently joined the site and I've already learned a great deal.Glad I joined!
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