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i was wondering if either of these were holder-worthy? the I in liberty is still seen on the upper coin. and on the lower coin, the line still shows on the rim. its like the dark side and the light side  very interesting coins in my opinion!   Edited by Adam_E
03/29/2010 4:50 pm
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The pics are too small for me to see anything. The pros amaze me with what they can do with the little pics.
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Bedrock of the Community
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what makes you think these are errors and worth slabbing? both look like post mint stains to me
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Edited by Adam_E
03/29/2010 5:06 pm
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The top one might be "holder-worthy" because it is a " defective die. "
That means that it has raised points from a die crack.
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What kind of Error are you saying this is?
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mine is kinda like this Some amazing errors have been up on the auction block on ebay recently. A rare 2005 Cent error was sold for Mid-high 4 figures (Thousands). This coin (2005 Cent) had a Dime "bowtie" shaped piece of chopped dime planchet strip webbing struck into the reverse of it. A truly amazing error that has never been seen before.. After planchets are punched out of long metal strips, these used strips of metal are chopped up into tiny "Bowtie" shaped pieces of scrap that will be eventually melted down. In the past & on rare occasions, one of these "bowtie" shaped pieces of scrap enter the coining chambers and are struck by dies.. These errors are extremely rare, especially with a full date as there is so little room on this small piece of scrap. While always extremely hard to locate, what few "bowtie" errors that are in the hobby, now are buried in better error collections. New examples that do surface, are far & few from year to year. No one I know has seen any since the 1990's? Now for this amazing error to surface and was found by a Non-error collector on the East Coast in a bank roll of 2005 cents (I interviewed the collector). The person discovering the coin was simply thrilled by all the bidders (46 bids) and excitement over his discovery. Since the Mints installed new coining presses and security equipment, only a handful of errors have surfaced since "2003". Those that do, draw a large crowd of interested buyers and as in the 2005 above error, set auction record prices. Naturally as far as Bowtie errors are concerned, Cents are the most common, Nickels are tougher, Dimes are one of the toughest to locate, Quarters, Halves & Dollars are almost non-existant.. Dated examples are extremely rare, eagerly sought after by collectors & dealers alike. Some other similar errors that almost as hard to locate are: Struck pieces of scrap, pieces that are at least 50% the size of the designate coin. MOST importantly are "die" struck on BOTH sides. Many errors that are scrap like in shape and only struck on 1 side. are actually lamination errors. Lamination errors can be pieces of PEELED off layers of a coin, these are NOTstruck Scrap. Struck scrap can come in a variety of shapes, weights, different metals, off metals. But 95% of them are Die struck on Both sides, a few may be struck on top of another planchet or coin. These will have a Different shaped brockage or design from what is struck on the other struck side. It may also have smooth unstruck surface, but will NOT have lamination striations and in most cases will not be "paper" thin.. NOT SURE? Then buy it Certified by PCGS or NGC. Edited by Adam_E
03/29/2010 6:27 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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so let me get this right? you are saying this cent above is struck through scrap? I am not a error collector but I still disagree if thats what you are saying
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Pillar of the Community
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no, I'm not saying that at all
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I am totally confused but what I see,and have read. Pictures too small to be sure of most possibilities but above is the coin dated 199?, last digit not clear, and is apparently stained or has a residue from another coin shaped figure and has left an impression of the perimeter of that coin or what ever on the 1st coins Obverse running through Liberty in a crescent shape.
In my opinion the 2nd coin dated 1984 has also a stain or was dipped in a solution to leave the apparent look we see, this is just my opinion from some pictures leaving much to be desired, I am NOT an error expert, but have been learning for many, many years, In my opinion, I love a good error coin! Mike....PS, Maybe better pictures would help clear things up for some of the resident experts, some of which have already replied!
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Pillar of the Community
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Ever think about an incomplete clip?
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Why can't you post pics like the one of your rotated capped die pic? That pic was great.
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because that wasn't my scanner. it was at my moms office
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