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1921 Peace Dollar

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Could I have a bit of help on grading this one? Being new to the coin collecting hobby/obsession I as yet don't know all the nuances and look out fors needed to accurately grade these coins. Any help appreciated!

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 Posted 04/02/2010  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nohope587 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Grade I can't help with but it does look a tad cleaned
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The wear around the ear seems excessive compared to the rest of the hair, don't know why that is. The coin does seem to have been cleaned. I would grade this coin at EF-45.
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 Posted 04/02/2010  09:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AMFCook to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It does look cleaned, not much more than EF.

What is that on the reverse rim from "ONE" to "UNITED"?
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Nice pictures. I tend to agree with previous assessments - the right side of the obverse, around TRUST, seems to show the characteristic brushing hairlines.

Could you possibly do a closeup of the area of the LL in DOLLAR? There's something there I'd like to look at.
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Weakness is the hair details is commonplace on the high relief Peace dollar of 1921. It's been said that maybe 10 percent were fully struck. The Eagle's wing shows some weakness on the lower edge, which is also from strike weakness. Look at a whole bunch of these...and you'll find a fully struck specimen, and will see what I mean. I have a terrible time grading these, and even more trouble telling old cleaning from a coin that's simply been circulated. I'd give this coin a grade of ef45.

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 Posted 04/02/2010  12:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paleoguy45 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK SuperDave... Here's a closer view of the area you're interested in.

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I agree with the others, EF-45 cleaned.

Just a tip, but if you purchased it you should learn how to accurately grade and price the series.

Nice coin though, I've always been curious as to how the high relief Peace dollars look in hand.
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Quote:
I've always been curious as to how the high relief Peace dollars look in hand.


Much better than Morgans.
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I agree it looks XF, maybe AU depending on luster, and maybe cleaned.

The reverse rim has a Cud around 9:00 and a Cud and die crack at about 1:00. The high pressures required to strike up the details on these caused the dies to fail very quickly-- so that 's what it is -- die failure. Cool stuff!
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 Posted 04/04/2010  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, paleoguy45. There's an added-value variety of this coin which has die polishing that causes one of the rays to extend entirely through the first L in DOLLAR. Your coin has a little hit at the exact place I'd expect to see the extra ray, shown in your detail pic but unclear in the full-face image.

I had a moment there, for a moment.
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AMF,
The coins you speak of both have some very pretty women on the obverse I personally always liked ANNA'S face over Teresa's, just another Morgan lover...., Mike.

PS, I also feel this coin exhibits more wear on the obverse than the reverse, not just a weak strike, and had the hair been better over Teresa's ear, I would give HER a AU GRADE, but it is not and agree with the previous given grade, EF+...
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