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I Don't Like The Single Squeeze Era

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The '55's and 69's and 72's and 83's and 95's are what got me fired up about collecting.

Trying to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find an extra thumbnail, or an extra knee, or a small chunk of concrete is for the birds. About the most exciting thing out there now is an ear nub!

Someone please give me renewed hope!
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I'm with you scooby. If it isn't a DD or WAM it goes back to the bank.
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So what's a single squeeze?
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wd; I reckon it's either:

- one squeeze less than a doubled die
- one squeeze less than a repunch
- two less than a re-repunch
- flawless MS





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aaa....errrrr....buttttt..I......huh
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Modern coins are struck once?
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Scooby was having his beers a bit early last night but I believe I caught his drift.He couldn't wait until the site went down for maintenance.
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I'm afraid the '95 is the last of the mohicans. We will never have the joy of finding a doubled die like a '55, '69, or '72 ever again (from '97 on, I believe).

From here out it will be extra columns, ear nubs, and extra knees & feet, and the ever so hard to see minor notching.

I guess I can hang my hopes on finding the existing ones. Otherwise, they are a thing of the past.
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In regards to the "single squeeze era", this refers to the current method for creating working dies. Prior to the past ~10 years, dies were impressed on a hub once, annealed(heat treated) to soften, and then hubbed a second time to strengthen the detail. If the die was not perfectly aligned with the hub for the second impression or if the die was impressed on a completely different hub(see modern "overdates"- 1918/7-D Buffalo 5c, 1942/1 and 1942/1-D Mercs, 1918/7-S SLQ, etc), a doubled die would be created.

Current technology allows for a die to be hubbed only once and it was thought that this process would eliminate doubled dies completely but it has not. However, current doubled dies are primarily limited to light spread confined to the central details of the die and look rather insignificant when compared to doubled dies of the past "double squeeze era". The doubling is thought to occur from the initial contact of the hub and die before the are fully seated together.
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04/13/2010 11:38 am
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Now I understand. Thx Biokemist6
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Thanks, bio, interesting stuff.


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The doubling is thought to occur from the initial contact of the hub and die before the are fully seated together.


So that would be like Machine Doubling on the die? (As opposed to a shifted second strike on the die)

( edit to head off everyone at the pass )
I'm not suggesting the doubling on a coin that happens as a result of this would be called " Machine Doubling".

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04/13/2010 12:12 pm
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There is one notable exception to the above. While not as dramatic as the major well-known DD's, this one, for the single-squeeze era, is pretty good!

http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=eds
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Nice catch coppernickeldaddy, at least that one IS purdy.
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Nice one.
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What about the Duke Ellington? That's the best one I've seen in years.
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True the Duke, Thad. I guess I only had Lincoln's in mind when I posted. But, now that I think about it, with the new shield, we don't even have knees and concrete to look for.

But, coppernickeldaddy has renewed my faith!
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