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 Posted 04/26/2010  11:48 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add splatto to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
the obverse of this 1998 nickle seems to have a piece that has been removed from it. I'm quite certain this is a mint error as there are not marks on the coin that suggest a chunk as been forcibly dug out.

Any ideas on what this is?

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 Posted 04/26/2010  11:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add splatto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
unfortunately the scan does not do it justice. it is a very smooth indentation where the 'chunk' of coin is missing.
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 Posted 04/26/2010  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snaz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have a strong suspicion it is post mint damage. Because of the way coins are struck there would not be a possible way for such a huge mountain of metal to be sitting above the surface of the coin.
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 Posted 04/26/2010  11:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add splatto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, I should have been clearer. That mark you see is not metal on top of the coin, it is metal missing from the coin. It is depressed a single mm or two, and the depression does not affect the rim of the coin
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 Posted 04/27/2010  12:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ugly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a pretty grainy shot, can you post a higher res with more pixels at photobucket or similar?
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Oh... interesting, that might change my opinion.
It looks like the metal has been "gouged" and it is mounded up on one side... The same effect you would see from digging your hand through sand.
I'll wait for better pictures before I cast my vote on what it is.
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 Posted 04/27/2010  05:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add waynericky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would have to agree with your there it looks like mint damage, if no other part of the coin looks like it has been viced or compressed to secure the coin while inflicting that type of indentation it is possible that the damage occurred at the mint. Heat would have caused quite a collapsed rim around the indentation and besides the exact mould being used to strike out the flaw other parts of the coin would show damage as well. Have it graded and find out is my best advise.
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 Posted 04/27/2010  07:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What does the other side look like?
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That's a pretty grainy shot, can you post a higher res with more pixels at photobucket or similar?


I will try. This was a scan, I took a picture with my blackberry and it is too fuzzy to post. I'll see if I can get a coworker to take an iphone picture to see how that works. I have an old digital camera at home I can try to use, I'm afraid however I won't be able to provide a picture of the quality of some I've seen around here. I'm tempted to jet off to Amis Stamps and Coins here in Toronto at lunch to get their opinion.



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It looks like the metal has been "gouged" and it is mounded up on one side... The same effect you would see from digging your hand through sand.


It does look like that through the picture. The effect is due to the bright spot that is reflecting the light of the scanner. However, there is no metal that has been relocated and there is no metal above the surface of the coin.


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What does the other side look like?


The other side looks great, with minor scratches that one would expect from 12 years in circulation. There is no damage or mark whatsoever on the reverse that is related to this depression on the obverse
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 Posted 04/27/2010  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ugly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A photo would definitely be better, a scanner is excellent at 2D but gives no depth of field for three dimensions, which is required here.
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 Posted 04/27/2010  11:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add splatto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a photo from an iphone. Still blurry but wayy better than my blackberry photo. I will still try to get a better image yet.

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 Posted 04/27/2010  4:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add splatto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I took it to Amis at lunch and he said that it is definitely a planchette defect but that it was not too major because it did not affect the "design" of the coin. I'm not sure I agree with that, I think it affects the design of the coin albeit in a minor way, in that it affects the word REGINA. Ultimately, he said it's a good " ebay" coin.

His reasoning that this was a planchette error is that there is no visible gouge mark from an external tool, there is no damage to the other side, the rim is intact, and there is no evidence it had been hit. Another gentleman inspecting Large pennies with his loupe agreed with the proprietor of the store.

A coworker will bring in his digital camera tomorrow so I hope to have much clearer pictures for you soon so you can see for yourself.
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Can you get an accurate weight on it? If the coin is slightly underweight, then it would more than likely be a planchet defect barring any other marks that would indicate PMD. If it is of a normal weight, then the coin could have been struck through something(metal scrap, etc).
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 Posted 04/28/2010  11:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RustyEdge to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like lamination it me as the defect occured before blanking.
Coin will definitely be under weight.
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 Posted 04/29/2010  11:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add splatto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am not able to accurately weigh it but it is definitely missing metal and I expect it to be underweight

I looked at this definition of a lamination error and it describes what the coin is
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does...er_look_like


I am still working on getting a picture...hope to have one tomorrow night for everyone.
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I used to live on Perth Ave! Maybe I should check out this store one day. I have a bunch of stamps that I don't want from the 1970s to 1990s. And I don't collect stamps. Are the staff friendly?
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