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I just got this one today. It has obviously been cleaned, but it is totally authentic since it is 26.85 grams, the edge looks perfect with two very distinguishable overlaps that are 180 degrees across from one another, and the design appears to be correct. So how would you grade this one?   |
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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echizento- Thanks for the input! I agree that it has VF-35 details, but what kind of net grade would you give it based upon the harsh cleaning?
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United States
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I'm not seeing any of the telltale signs of a cleaning (hairlines, etc..). I do see some a weak strike along the edge and some doubling on the T on the reverse. Overall the grade remains the same.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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echizento- thanks! I am really happy with this purchase since it has been a while since I have found an 8 in a decent grade and at a reasonable price.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Nice coin if it has been cleaned, who cares! It's a great coin with lots of history to it. The best part is that YOU enjoy this.
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Philippines
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Yes its a nice (very fine plus) Carolus IIII. Had not been to the weak strike at 1 - 3 o'clock of the obverse and plus-ultra of the 2 pillars, it could easily go for an EF grade in my opinion. It is a lot nicer that my coin. How reasonable is the price Archraz?
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United States
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Nice 8! I agree with Echizento, doesn't appear to have excessive hairlines or any harsh scratches. Nice coin and I like the slightly off center strike look which accounts for the weakness in "Dei Gratia". That is not wear, it is strike. I give it a solid VF and would be proud to have it in my collection. The wear on the hair and clasp keep it out of the EF range. Excellent addition. Are you trying to assemble a specific set? By date? By type? By mint? Cleaned 8's have never really bothered me as long as they are not "damaged". These coins are 200 years old, and have passed through many hands. I am like you, I buy them because I like them, the coin appeals to me and my "buy price" matches my desire to have that specific coin.
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Pandesalapi- Thanks for the input! To be honest, I only paid $20 for it! My local dealer is seriously too good to me. haha
jfransch- Thanks! There actually are some noticeable scratches around the base of the left pillar and the "X" of "REX" on the reverse, but they don't bother me too much. I just collect 8's by date and mint. I just love the design and the history associated with them. Whenever I find a real one at a reasonable price I snatch it.
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04/30/2010 2:02 pm
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Philippines
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I only paid $20 for it! My local dealer is seriously too good to me. Wow, it's really way below at its normal price. Mine, I got it at $125 5 years ago. You really have good dealer... We all love the design of these 8 reales. Be it plain or with countermarks...What is special is we enjoy having and looking at them...  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pandesalapi- Thanks for the grading help! Might you have a picture of your 1795 M 8?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Archraz, here is one of my 1795's   |
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Canada
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$20?!?@!#?!@# I would have jumped on that in a nanosecond... I would have probably jumped on the dealer and through the wall as well.
I have always wanted "pieces of 8".
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Pandesalapi- Thanks for the grading help! Might you have a picture of your 1795 M 8? I am still retrieving my picture files of my 1795. I'll post it asap What I can easily post now is dated 1803 Carolus IIII. Notice this 8 reales on its reverse side, it has die break I guess from 12:00 crossing the coin vertically down to 6:00. Coin was also cleaned with not so nice appearance.   |
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United States
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Pandesalapi- Very nice even though it was cleaned! And I must say that that is quite a die break. It looks like that die was about to snap in half after only a couple more strikes. Thanks for sharing this with us!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Great die break. It would be fun to search out another 1803 with the same break at a different stage of the crack.
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Posted 04/27/2010 8:50 pm
