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ndgoflo Pillar of the Community United States 626 Posts	Posted 07/02/2006 4:44 pm Hi all, I'm not sure if it is Greek or Roman, but I do believe it is ancient. Anyone care to try to ID this one for me? I have absolutely NO knowledge of ancients whatsoever. Thanks in advance! Report this Post to the Staff

Sap Moderator Australia 16834 Posts	Posted 07/02/2006 6:08 pm Hmm, not sure if there's enough detail left there to give a useful ID. I'll try to find something when I can get to my references, but... Any hints as to provenance, where it might have come from? Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
ndgoflo Pillar of the Community United States 626 Posts	Posted 07/02/2006 6:15 pm Thanks Sap, I truly appreciate the assistance. I haven't a clue, what you see is what you get. It's approximately 5/8-3/4" in diameter and darn near paper thin. I can't recognise any type of writing at all, and I am not even sure which way is up. I got it in a lot of world coins, apparently no previous owner could positively ID it either. Report this Post to the Staff
grendelfreak Valued Member Australia 281 Posts	Posted 07/02/2006 8:01 pm I'm guessing its Greek or Hellenistic as that looks like a head in the second picture, but it might also be a fake as the first picture has a small '2' on its surface and it does not look like its meant to be there, IMHO. Beyond that I don't have a clue. Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16834 Posts	Posted 07/02/2006 8:55 pm If it's "paper thin", it's not likely to be an ancient - they were usually pretty thick. Wait.. I think I might have something. If you read the centre part of the top image as a European-style shield or coat of arms, then I can make out a cross "+" in the upper left of the "shield" (where grendelfreak's "2" is) and another diagonally below that, in the lower right quadrant. That layout was used by the Knights of Malta on their coins. I think I have a couple of copper and billon Maltese coins I can scan for you to compare it with when I get home, but that's my best guess for now. As for the "2", it's hard to tell but I think it's just a combination of pitting/corrosion and a trick of the light, rather than something that's been stamped there. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
ndgoflo Pillar of the Community United States 626 Posts	Posted 07/02/2006 9:10 pm Thanks guys, anything at all is better than the nothing that I had!! Report this Post to the Staff
thekidcollector Forum Kid Kuwait 1523 Posts	Posted 07/03/2006 04:17 am Whats the wieght? Theres really tooo much crud on it.Where did you find it? TKC! Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16834 Posts	Posted 07/03/2006 04:24 am Here's the one I said I'd scan earler. It's not as close a match as I'd thought: Malta (Knights of St John) 1 grano c. 1601-1622, KM#9 Now I'm not so sure your coin is from the Knights of Malta; I can't see a copper coin (in the 1600-1800 period) with the arms on one side and a portrait on the other (I'm assuming that the roundinsh blobby thing is the remnant of a portrait!)listed in Krause, so if it is Malta its either in the pre-Krause period (1530-1600) or it's not copper. Several other European states had a similar layout - I spotted the Teutonic Order and the Archbishopric of Trier in a casual search of the books. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
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