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wwhitman Pillar of the Community United States 1415 Posts	Posted 05/16/2010 08:38 am I was going through my Arabic coins which unfortunately I do not do often enough. I was taking a close look at this one and noticed that it is not listed in my Krause 4th Edition. I coin is similar to the KM#221 except the Regnal year is off? The size, weight and composition are spot on. Krause only lists 8 while this one appears to be a 13. Does anybody have further info? Report this Post to the Staff

svslav Pillar of the Community United States 2605 Posts	Posted 05/16/2010 10:22 am I believe you're looking at a wrong country. Your para was minted in Turkey, KM# 665.1. The reignal year is 13. Report this Post to the Staff
molydeii Pillar of the Community Turkey 870 Posts	Posted 05/21/2010 1:09 pm That is a 1 para, 1255/13 Regnal year. Ottoman Empire. Report this Post to the Staff
wwhitman Pillar of the Community United States 1415 Posts	Posted 05/21/2010 2:32 pm Having little knowledge in this area. Is it common for two countries to use the same design? My Krause has the Egypt coin and it looks the same/similar. Is there a way to determine the country or is this a case of classification? Thanks in advance for your patience Report this Post to the Staff
svslav Pillar of the Community United States 2605 Posts	Posted 05/23/2010 4:36 pm Both Turkey and Egypt belonged to the Ottoman Empire (as well as a few other countries). In Turkey the prevalent language was Turkish, in Egypt - Arabic, even though the alphabet was common. In most cases the design on the coins is different enough to see the origin immediately, for a couple of denominations (like yours) it requires a little more digging. Report this Post to the Staff
molydeii Pillar of the Community Turkey 870 Posts	Posted 05/25/2010 08:40 am wwhitman - not the exact same design but Ottoman Tugra (the design you see on the obverse of the coin) is very common in Ottoman and ex-Ottoman Empire countries such as Egypt, Tunus, Iraq, Syria. Even Pakistan adopted the Tugra for their coins and used it since 1960's. A Tugra is the "signature" of a Sultan. Before 1839, Tugras vary between Sultans, each has a different "signature". After 1839, the Tugra becomes a standard but each Sultan added a motive to it, precisely to the upper right side of it. One Sultan has a Rose flower. One other has the word "el-gazi" meaning "veteran". Report this Post to the Staff
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