Mexico - Durango Mint 8 Reales 1821

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Sap Moderator Australia 16845 Posts	Posted 05/24/2010 09:08 am A recent acquisition of mine from the annual coin show - just thought I'd run it by the experts to check for authenticity. The edge is square-and-circles and it has two edge overlaps. It has the usual crudeness of late Revolutionary-period Royalist coinage. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff

jfransch Pillar of the Community United States 1801 Posts	Posted 05/24/2010 11:35 am Looks good (as good as it gets for Durango 8s). If the weight is good and you have examined the edges carefully I would say you scored a nice Royalist issue. Report this Post to the Staff
Archraz Pillar of the Community United States 3499 Posts	Posted 05/24/2010 1:15 pm Sap- Very nice! Congrats on this one. So what is the weight of your coin? Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16845 Posts	Posted 05/24/2010 8:08 pm I'll have to wait until Thursday before I can weigh it; I'm on holidays until then. I don't have a good balance here but there are plenty of accurate balances at work. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
swamperbob Pillar of the Community United States 5362 Posts	Posted 05/24/2010 8:22 pm Sap - Nice coin with all of the appearance of being real. Nice color - correct style and lettering - edge strike priority and normal dentils. I also really like the way the shield was done. I have only one area of curiosity. It is a very shallow cut portrait which is not listed in Calbetto. It is possibly a new variety. I do not track all the various portraits of the Royalist coins because they tend to be unique for every die - and I do not collect Colonial 8R originals. So I can not be sure now often this portrait has appeared. But I am struck by the deeply set profile (outline) coupled with susch low relief detail. The facial features, hair lines and ear all seem to be all at one level. Most portraits of that period were deeply engraved so much so in the Royalists strikes that it is scarce to see a fully struck up portrait. The reverse situation seems to be the case here. Several "new" varieties of Royalist coins have appeared on the market in the past couple years and more than one of them has had a similar low depth portrait. The odd thing is that there are no low relief portraits for any date of Royalist Mexican issues in Calbeto. Why so many are appearing after Calbeto is curious. I am not yet actually suspicious of the low relief varieties, but I would like to know the weight and SG of this coin if possible? I want to preclude any chance of a forgery. It is a working hypothesis that each Durango portrait was engraved individially until 1822 - there was no Durango King punch. This is unlike Zacatecas which had a King Punch at least by late 1820. If every other factor checks out along with weight and SG - I would go with original, at least for now. Report this Post to the Staff
jfransch Pillar of the Community United States 1801 Posts	Posted 05/25/2010 11:16 am Swamperbob, somewhere I have a Durango 8 reale that is very sharply struck up on a very detailed bust, however it was a bust not shown in Calbeto. If memory serves me, the coin also was "heavy" if I remember correctly (it was purchased years before I habitually weighed new purchases). What I specifically remember about the coin was the letters in the legend seemed odd, almost hand engraved. I will dig the coin out of the SDB and post a photo, I would be very grateful for your and other members of the forums insight into the coins authenticity. Back when I acquired the coin I gave coins a quick look over and a glance at the edge and that was that, if I liked the coin or it interested me it went into the collection for future study because I had minimal knowledge of the Royalist issues. Most of the authentic ones looked counterfeit to me at the time (and some still do). Report this Post to the Staff
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