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 Posted 05/18/2010  1:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jedichef to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Padron '64 anniversario is a great cigar. my special treat cigar is the Fuente Fuente Opus X. But I do understand how you feel about modern coinage. they do feel cheap. Maybe they'll have more appeal in 30 years, but I still think they just don't make 'em like they used to.
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 Posted 05/18/2010  5:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cladking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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As I've said a number of times. I just feel for the young collectors coming up and having all of these crap coins to search. After just 20 years it's hard to find a penny that isn't trash.Amagine what they will look like in another 20? Amagine the young ones that haven't even started collecting yet.Tisk,tisk.


I don't think there's ever been a better time in history to collect coins from change. I know there's never been a better time in my lifetime.

I started collecting in 1957 when there just weren't any coins older than about 40 years old and most were much more recent. There wasn't anything numismatically valuable or scarce because collectors were numerous and scoured pocket change looking for the mythical '09-S VDB and other goodies that were long long gone.

Today the coins are much older ansd far more diverse. Rare coins circulate freely because even after half a century people are still mostly looking for wheaties and silver.
Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.
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 Posted 05/18/2010  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with JHS. Moderns just do nothing for me, and I end up selling all of mine, even the silver ones since I'd much rather have my junk 90% in classic types like mercs, slqs, and wlhs. I collect purely classical types, with the exception of the modern's in my 7070 and my Lincoln Cent collection(though I will still argue that wheaties are "classic" coins though it is in stark disagreement with the forum consensus...:-) ). I here what cladking is saying that there are still a lot of rare varieties and such out there, but if I find them, I will be selling them to purchase more classic coins.
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 Posted 05/18/2010  5:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Someone has to stand up for the modern coins!

I wish we had a complete design change on all denominations, but I cannot say that I hate modern coins.

I appreciate the classic designs and would love to see Lady Liberty return to us one day. Unfortunately the use of real people on coins will probably prevent this from ever happening. Any attempt to remove them only guarantees protests from their supporters.

However, recent changes have created an endpoint for all but two of the modern denominations I grew up with (half dollars and dimes). I suppose I can live with that.
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 Posted 05/18/2010  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am with you too Jbuck.

In my first post was trying to let them know that some do like modern coins. That they should understand that not all people like the same coins.

I find it funny that when, someone is asking how they are going to collect the new quarters. Some will jump in and talk them down .. say how they are not going to collect that junk. When the person making the post is just wanting to know how others, that are collecting them, are going to go about it.

But you never see someone say in their post .. why are you collecting ... Seated coins .. or standing Lib quarters .. they are just junk ..

I see how they say, this is suppose to be a family type site .. seems like they would be understandable of all collectors.

Enlightenment .. would be understanding that everyone is different and will like different coins

Just a observation
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 Posted 05/18/2010  7:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jedichef to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i certainly don't HATE modern coins, I love love love roll hunting. and am still trying to put all my modern sets together from circulation. but I do feel the artistry is greatly diminished from the coins of the bygone years.
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 Posted 05/18/2010  8:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add L1011 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think most all could agree with that, it does seem the coins of yesteryear were more ornate and detailed
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I wish we had a complete design change on all denominations, but I cannot say that I hate modern coins.



ooooh, HATE is such a strong word JBuck. I certainly don't "hate" them. They just never really get me excited. Basically, they don't illicit any kind of emotional response; where-as a nice indian half eagle, or dateless 1916 Standing Liberty quarter will get me all salivatory and send warm "tingles" down my spine...

I completely agree with goldrush. What fun would it be if we ALL liked exactly the same coins? First off, there would be so much demand for them, that we would probably never be able to afford what we wanted anyways if everyone wanted exactly the same thing..lol
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 Posted 05/19/2010  12:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pennywise to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This reminds me... I need to check my humidity... we should all get together for a smoke sometime...
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 Posted 05/19/2010  09:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 3stooges to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The modern stuff is about as exciting as a visit to the DMV. If I could make just one change, I'd get that uber-socialist FDR off the dime.
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 Posted 05/19/2010  11:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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In my first post was trying to let them know that some do like modern coins. That they should understand that not all people like the same coins.
They did not get the message, but your follow-up was well said.

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i certainly don't HATE modern coins, I love love love roll hunting.

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ooooh, HATE is such a strong word JBuck. I certainly don't "hate" them
Yes, I threw that word in there to get your attention!

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it does seem the coins of yesteryear were more ornate and detailed
I have to agree with that.
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 Posted 05/20/2010  06:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add j_h_s to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yawler funny boys and girls...fun and entertaining reading, thanks.

As I alluded: under a microscope, looking at newer coins, I'm just not seeing quality in relief.

So many modern-modern LMCs have a surface (and relief) that makes me think the mint simply cranked them out with less regard or quality assurance; e.g., peeling plating/lamina, un-discernible lines, life expectancy of dies, etc. to the degree that untrained eyes ask, "Is this one is this one is this one is this one is this one an error...and...the more knowledgeable say, "yep...another error that is the mediocre standard of imperfection in minting quality...so common and standard that it's not really an error and does not command a premium."

Then our designs get more intricate and (a month or year later) before we know it, coins like the State Quarters and new LMCs amass a long list of errors and varieties that include the quite remarkably small mis-strikes.






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 Posted 05/20/2010  1:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglefoot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One man's trash is another man's treasure.....

Obviously..... I LOVE Moderns, which is why I mostly hang out on the Modern section of the forum ! It's a place for those with common interests to talk about them and/or learn about them.
I love Classic coins too. I have an almost equal amount of passion for them as well...but I don't "hate" any "era" of coin collecting. It is a hobby of "commonality" that brings us all together here I believe. So, I would caution those who vehemently dislike a classification or era of coins, to just be wary that we do live in a new "era" of coin collecting, and it could be a little troubling for newbies or folks who like ALL coins to observe this extreme dislike. Or at least so described in a way to belittle "their" passion. Opinions are fine.....but I would caution in going TOO far in venting a "hatred" of a particular era of our hobby. (I'm not saying that's happened right here in this thread.....but it does come up time and again)
Just my .02 worth.....
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05/20/2010 2:59 pm
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I have to say I feel just the same about moderns. Cheap and lame
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 Posted 05/20/2010  3:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Erwindoc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like moderns.
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