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1944 Mercury Dime

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What grade would you give this,Mercury fans.


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 Posted 07/08/2006  5:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dewayne76 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS62 or MS63.
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I see wear so I'd say EF45 or AU50.
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I agree on the AU 50 the dings are to outstanding to be just bag marks. Has it been dipped?
But I know next to nothing about mercs so I am probably way off.
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quote:
Originally posted by nohope587

I agree on the AU 50 the dings are to outstanding to be just bag marks. Has it been dipped?
But I know next to nothing about mercs so I am probably way off.


i don't think it has been dipped but I cannot say for sure. The coin actually looks better than the pictures.
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I would say MS60 but with the scratches on the obverse field I would lower it to AU55.
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Hi Guys

I have been watching this thread, and I have to ask ,, How are you determining a grade for this coin ?

the top curls of the hair cannot be seen they are behind glare, the details of the wing tips cannot be seen this is one of the areas to first show wear, the hair details above the ear could be weak strike ,, the reverse has no detail visable in the upper or lower bands, the center bands look connected this is also a sign of possible weakness in the strike.I cannot tell if there is any flatness in the diagonals,,

Not to mention the luster if the coin has any ?

If this coin is MS and weakly struck even with hits in the field and the one on fasces on the reverse it could still grade 64,, if there is wear then it could be as low as AU-50 that is a large spread ,,

This coin really cannot be graded with any confidence from the pics.

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Maybe this will help a little, Rick. Still trying to figure out this new camera.


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I would agree with Metalman in the context that grading is very hard to achieve with pictures, especially online pictures. A true grading could only be done in person and only agreed upon and sorted out by 3 or more people. Ergo, the grading services. However, after looking at only the picture, I would give it a grade of AU-55 to AU-58. Reasons - keep in mind that this is only my observation from pictures - 1. Looks like the cheek has some wear, which is one of the high points of the Merc obverse, that and the hair just behind the cheek. 2. It appears to have mint luster, but could only be from the picture, therefore I can't take that fact into account unless seen in person. 3. The diagonal bands look pretty strong but the 2 middle bands have melded together suggesting wear and slight circulation. Someone perhaps took this out and stored it away as soon as they received it in change that year. This is how the majority of my collection is made. The little dings on both sides give this suggestion also, especially on a 90% silver coin. These are just my opinions and observations and in no way endorses any grade. Hope I have contributed somewhat to the conversation.
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Thanks TLS

The second pics are better .

AU-50 -55

all of the high points show some wear.

although I think the coin was less than a full strike to begin with, and probly never showed full split center bands.

The upper and lower bands are also lacking detail.

Its a nice coin but definitely not MS.

TLS the pics show some hairlines, in both fields on the obverse and reverse ,, what do these look like with the coin in hand,, I hesitate to call them evidence of cleaning, but they may be.

Rick

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I saw that in the pictures also. I used a 5X and 10X loupe but not really seeing them on obverse the coin but somewhat on the reverse. So I took a Morgan that is MS64/65 that there isn't a mark on and took a picture of it also and for some reason using the flash with macro setting,it show scratch like marks.
If I don't use the flash,they don't show up.So I'm not sure whats going on there.
Its possible the dime was cleaned at some point I guess.
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I would agree with the others.I sent 1923-s Mercury ANACS look like yours and it came back AU/58.I was so sure it was it was MS-65 FB 1 side across a table top will afect silver bands of a mercury!!
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