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1853 Braided Cent

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What do you think this might grade?

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That is beautiful. Man - what artistry! I agree with the seller and the MS 64 grade. Congrats!
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Can't say with any knowledgeable opinion ...... it looks very well preserved to me.

The 'original surfaces' issue is my biggest stumbling block to purchasing raw coins such as this .....

Looking at this lovely Large Cent ..... how do you know from the photos that the difference in luster and color from obverse to reverse is 'original'.

For example .... why the bright red in portions of Liberty bonnet and uniform brown on the reverse?

Ooops .... not trying to hijack your thread with a discussion on identifying cleaned coins ...... just curious why you knew it had original surfaces.

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Really? An MS64!! I wasn't thinking that high. If so I'm happy for getting it for only
$60!
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I would go with an MS63 0 Just my opinion. But that is one heck of a beautiful coin, and a great price at that. I also had problems with telling cleaned from uncleaned, but I think looking at different examples of the same type of coin helps a great dela
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To answer your question nickel searcher, first I looked around the stars to see if there was any residue build up that would evidence an old cleaning/dipping. No residue. As far as the color difference one side could have been exposed to open air more than the other. What do you think about the mark running along the cheek? It doesn't really seem to be a scratch.
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I don't think it will make the 64 grade but I do believe it has UNC details
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BN or RB? I'm bad at determining the colors.
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UNC details, RB or BN probably isn't taken into account for this. IMO this seller is somewhat of a scammer/exaggerator, but you got a good deal since it has a fair amount of eye appeal left.
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What's your reasoning for details Brian, just curious.
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Scratches on the face likely will get it a details grade because it is a higher grade coin, in addition to the corrosion spots on the reverse. This seller is notorious for selling exaggerated coins, and probably makes money off his restocking fees too. His other ID is 'shcoins'
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Scratches on the face likely will get it a details grade because it is a higher grade coin,


I agree, or it will knock it down to a 61 or so. It does have a lot of eye appeal, and you got a terrific deal! Congrats.
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Is that a Cud around the upper part of the rim? From what I see, the mark doesn't appear to be a scratch, almost a groove.
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I think whatever condition (corrosion?) was (and it was) causing the pitting was lifted out by cleaning....likely dipped....and swabbed and clothed.

obverse deep (emptied) pits at 12 and 2 o'clock
obverse rim...what remains of the corroded condition at 12 and 2 o'clock
reverse deep (emptied) pits at 6 and 7 o'clock

I think, before the coin was cleaned, the obverse was nearly the same color as the reverse. Note the red peeking out through the empty pit at 6 and 7 o'clock on the reverse. Note the 12 and 2 o'clock stain/corrosion on the obverse is the same color as the reverse.

I'd go 62, maybe 63 on it.


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Nice looking coin at a decent price but IMO it would not slab as original surfaces at any of the top TPG's.
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I don't want to be a downer but the scratch on the obverse and the corrosion on the reverse looks like an AU-55 coin to me.

Just IMO.

(It's still very pretty)!

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