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I just received a 2 cent piece that I mail ordered and I have a question. It is supposed to be uncirculated, but it is very dark chocolate brown in appearance which makes me wonder if it is artificially treated. I can post a pic if needed. I was hoping for advice on how to detect artificially treated copper coins.

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 Posted 05/22/2010  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add needgames4lyfe to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, a picture would be necessary to tell if it is artifically treated. Can you post one?
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I'm a fool for old chocolate bu coins, they just seem to be so real...
but unfortunately experience is the key, go to shows, local dealers, clubs, is much cheaper to learn from other people then your own mistakes...
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The problem around where I live is that there are no coin clubs, shops or shows within 200 miles. Posting a pic right away........
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Post a picture and we can see what you have ;-)
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 Posted 05/23/2010  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 3centsilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here it is- its a rotated reverse!! and maybe even a DDO + DDR.......

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If it is not artificially treated, it's going straight to PCGS......
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 Posted 05/23/2010  10:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice! Hard to see the doubling though.
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The color looks original to me. Can you get larger pictures? It does look MS. I would guess by your pics MS64BN if I had to make a guess. It was quite common for these to have rotated reverses.

Check out this thread. You can see the different toning:
https://goccf.com/t/65457
Richard sure knows his 2 Cent Pieces, hopefully, he'll see this thread
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I'll try to get a bigger pic.......
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Looks cool to me too.
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Really cannot tell from the pics if its AU or BU, for BU the two leaves on the right of the shield should have complete central veins the two on the left. the top one should have 3/4 veins. The Arrow heads should have no flattening on them.
here is an MS 64 for you to compare.
http://www.mycoins.us/USA/2Cent/1864/DSC06315.jpg
http://www.mycoins.us/USA/2Cent/1864/DSC06316.jpg

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The central veins are intact but the arrow heads have a slight rub on them. I noticed this immediately and wonder if it is AU58 or just a weak strike...............
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If its rub then AU check the shield under the We the ball should be round with no flattening. the denticles on yours look fairly sharp so no weak strike indicated the coin is slightly off center but again this is fairly normal for a 2 Cent.
MS 60
http://www.mycoins.us/USA/2Cent/186...64obvADO.jpg
AU55
http://www.mycoins.us/USA/2Cent/186...64ObvBOO.jpg
note the rub on the arrow the right one always goes first.
also see the slight flattening on the ball bellow the WE
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does anyone know how I can get a bigger, higher resolution scan?
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