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Since discovering.......or I should say "just finally going into it".....the local coin shop, I've been in the process of filling some new Dansco's with old Uncirculated Sets, Proof Sets, Silver Proof Sets, old Treasury envelopes, singles, etc. etc. etc. It's quite fun ! I'd been noticing my Eisenhower Dansco getting close to FULL !! ....  ....(minus a page and a half or so) Well, I knew the guy had TONS of Brown Ikes in the boxes.....so I went in today over the lunch hour. He got them all out for me. I must have looked through 50 some boxes of '71's and 73's, etc., etc., and much to my dismay, ALL OF THEM WERE IN REALLY BAD SHAPE ! I picked a '71 and a '73 that were the "best of the worst".....but, I was just kinda sad...because I'd really like to have only PREMO Ikes in this Dansco ! ......  I hated to just "settle" for these, and not be more patient.....but I got em' ! Apparently, finding them in good condition isn't easy though, according to him. Is this everyone else's take too ?Additionally, I did pick up a couple more Mint Sets and another Proof Set to "console" myself though ! .....  I'm also getting close to having my Sac/Native Dollar with Proofs album complete too ! .......  My second Lincoln Cent album with Proofs is looking S.W.E.E.T. !.....so far NO CIRCULATED COINS ARE IN THERE WHATSOEVER !....It's ALL done in Uncirculated P&D or Proof so far ! I know this will get much more difficult with the Wheats, but the Memorials all shine pretty bright Red right now ! ....  My second Jefferson nickel album is looking great too ! And my Roosevelt with Proofs album looks more attractive than I thought it would too. (I have a folder of these partially complete in poor condition) My Kennedy half album with Proofs is 80% done probably ! My second Washington Qtr. with Proofs album is the most impressive for me so far I must say. I have a long way to go with most of these new albums of course....and I'm getting ready to "slow down" with trying to fill them quickly.....but I just can't express how much fun it is (and reletively inexpensive) to "start over" with a lot of these. But, I'm making the "second" albums the top level of conditioned coins that I can afford.....and W.O.W. ! ......they suuuuuuure look purty ! ..  Overall......I was really surprised at how cheap these "old" Sets actually are ! Buying them from the coin shop to fill my albums is something I wish I would have been doing for 30 years ! I have no idea why I never wanted to go into our coin shops.......Now I'm on a first name basis with the owner.......he gives me great prices.....and he's always happy to see me ! ... He'll sell one guy $3,800.00 worth of Gold and/or Silver.....then come right over to me and spend 30 minutes showing me stuff and writing down what I'm interested in, etc. etc. etc. And I might only spend $100.00 bucks or less each visit ! (today I only spent $50.00) So far, he's the kind of guy who doesn't care if you're a big spender or not....he has an equal amount of enthusiasm !(I'm still not a fan of his wife though !) |
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Hey Eaglefoot;
First off, I love reading your posts. They are soo detailed and make it fun to read.
2nd, congratz on your progress! It is exciting seeing fellow memebers get closer to their goals. Is this the same dealer who you talked about once in the past (the one with the rude wife)?
Good job hunting!
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I must have looked through 50 some boxes of '71's and 73's, etc., etc., and much to my dismay, ALL OF THEM WERE IN REALLY BAD SHAPE ! They are notorious for this. I have that "milky haze" on all four silver proofs (surprisingly, the 1776-1976 silver proof is unblemished). During my search I found many raw ones, all in this condition. I believed (incorrectly) that I would need to find them in the OGP if I wanted unblemished dollars, but even those I found had the haze. I eventually gave up on the search because I really wanted to complete the album. After all of these years, I do not regret it. I love them regardless. |
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First off, I love reading your posts. Thank you ! ... (though, I fear sometimes the Mod's just wish I'd hurry up and get to the point ! ....  ) And yeah, JB, you're right about the "Milky" coloring....and most were even worse than that, that he had ! ....  (and he knew it too.....just said to pick the best ones I liked) O.G.P. definately does NOT mean = good condition. In fact, I bought some yellow Philly Treasury envelopes that had never been opened, thinking I'd land some nice Franklins and other coins..... ....well.....one Franklin in particular had some BAD problems !......not gonna do that again until I actually "see" it first ! My '76 Proof also was in excellent condition too JB ! ..(both my copy and my original one)....and even the Uncirc. '76 Set had a very nice Ike in it too ! Upgrading an Ike Dansco looks like it will be a "future" challange once I complete it apparantly ! Edited by eaglefoot
05/25/2010 08:25 am
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I will say that the first two pages of my Eisenhower dollar album have a certain charm to them, even tough the silver proofs are iffy. I do find some comfort that all of them are that way. |
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eaglefoot,
At least you had an opportunity to peruse a number of them at one place.
I made a purchase of a '74 and will have to wait until it arrives, prior to giving an opinion on the coin. Here is what I had to go by;
 I also got a blue pack '74, and one each of the 3 piece bicentennial proof and mint sets, I guess I went a little "Ike Crazy" but oh well!
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Hey Coin..... that Ike looks pretty good from here ! ...  All of the ones I looked through....even at the distance of your picture, they would have showed up pretty bad/milky rusty lookin' shape ! .... It's mostly just my first page and a half, in the Dansco where I have, or am going to have, problems finding good quality Ikes. |
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I guess I went a little "Ike Crazy" but oh well! Nothing wrong with that! Let us know when you get your treasures arrive. Even with the haze, I get a good cameo on my dollars when viewing them at an angle. The fields are still very shiny; with the right lighting and background, the cameo is stronger than I would expect. |
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And those are the ones that I hope to find to fill my remaining holes....cause it ain't lookin' good to find "Premo" ones !
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OK I'll let you judge... besides a bit of brown slightly unattractive toning around the edge  I think he is a keeper.   |
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That undesirable milky toning on brown Ikes can be traced to sulfur or other chemicals in the fake woodgrain (cardboard) packaging. I'm not a big fan of dipping as a rule, but I'll gladly make an exception for brown Ikes.
"Original" isn't always attractive. Some 1950s silver proof singles with "original Mint set toning" are butt ugly.
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HOLY WOW !! .......That's a great lookin Ike Coin ! .... But I'm MOST impressed with the photo's ! .... What beautiful clear close shots there !! ..... Nice job !
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I have that "milky haze" on all four silver proofs (surprisingly, the 1776-1976 silver proof is unblemished). During my search I found many raw ones, all in this condition. I believed (incorrectly) that I would need to find them in the OGP if I wanted unblemished dollars, but even those I found had the haze. The 76's don't have the haze because of the different packaging. I firmly believe that the have seen on so many brown Ikes DOES come from the government packaging. I also think a lot of it comes from being baked. I remember back in the early seventies helping at coin shows and I would see dealers packing up and putting their coins including mint sets, proof sets, brown Ikes etc into the trucks of their cars. (Back then they didn't have mini vans or SUV's and very few people drove vans, almost all dealers drove cars) Did you ever consider how HOT it gets in the trunk of a car? It can easily exceed 140 degrees. And every time one of those sets or Ikes didn't get sold to a collector, it would go back in the truck and get baked for several more hours as the dealers drove to shows and back. So take a pristine brown Ike and say it goes through ten shows before it found a home. It could have received 60 hours of 140 degree heat by the time it was purchased. (I'm assuming a three hour travel time average) Just what kind of out gassing would occur in the packaging materials? |
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My Grandmother kept my Granpa's coins (Brown Ikes included) under her bed for 30 some years after my Grandpa died. They did not have central heat or central air....(wood stove and just a fan for the summer)...alot of these coins (that I got to see anyway) were in pretty bad shape.
My mom has those Brown Ikes in my Safety Deposit Boxes.....but they're pretty bad.
Out of 8 children....a couple of them took most of the coins for "safekeeping" when my Grandma had to go to a nursing home.....nobody gets to see them or catalog them or anything. ( I got to catalog some, the ones that they didn't find anyway)
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06/04/2010 3:12 pm
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Condor101 - that's a great angle on what could explain some of this. The brown boxes were unique to that series. And if I remember correcly, the Brown Ikes had a high, high price
Ha Ha. Much like our modern coinage (the 2001-S Sac proof, the Type 2 or 1 proofs of '79 and '81, UNC rooseys for $30 and more, etc.)
I guess every era had the problem with "the modern series". Didn't want to pay full price.
Of course, if you bought those Brown Ikes back in the mid-1970's for the price they were asking, then you're still waiting to break even - despite the higher silver prices.
Oh what a roller-coaster we are on...
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Posted 05/24/2010 6:05 pm
But how do ya like it now ! ! !
