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Valued Member
Philippines
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Most Spanish dos escudos coin are in gold but seldom do I see a dos escudo coin in a silver even on ebay and other coin auctions. I have research this one on a Spanish Catalogo and I have seen it listed though. Here it is...   |
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Pillar of the Community
Philippines
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Looks very nice Pan, just curious on what it's diameter is?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I believe it's 37 mm, Nic. And it's .9000 silver.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pandesalapi That is a nice type coin. I have seen a few and I believe I own one. (Where it is exactly I don't know). There are also silver coated copper and plain copper forgeries of this date which were made in the same period. (Those are listed in Luis Coronado's 2000 book "Catalogo General de la Moneda Falsa Espagnola".) Coronado also lists an 1867 that purports to be from the Seville mint (a fantasy) struck in brass. That same book also records three forgeries dated 1865 struck in Platinum, Copper and Brass. Wouldn't you love to stumble onto a copy in Platinum! 
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Valued Member
 Philippines
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Svslav is right Nic, it's a little smaller than an Un Peso Alfonso XIII as you will notice in the picture below. This Dos Escudos in silver also has the same diameter as the common Isabel II 20 reales.  Quote:
Wouldn't you love to stumble onto a copy in Platinum! Yes I love to own one Swamperbob... but it's an impossible dream for anyone to be the owner of the very rare single copy "Isabel Blanca" in platinum ... how I wish there exist another one Edited by Pandesalapi
06/14/2010 06:50 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pandesalapi Actually I was referring to the counterfeit copies made of platinum not an official presentation strike.
Into the later half of the 19th century Platinum was a waste metal. No one really knew what to do with it. In the 1830s it was of almost NO value so forgers used it to copy gold coins. Platinum is denser than gold so a slightly thinner planchet was gold plated and struck to make a fake gold coin that weighed the correct amount.
I have found 3 forgeries in platinum in my 50 years of collecting. All were properly identified as counterfeits but they were not identified as Platinum. Now that Platinum is worth more than gold it can be a super find with a spectacular profit potential. Of course I would never melt a counterfeit.
But it is simply worth noting that when you reject a counterfeit make sure you are not rejecting a very valuable item at a fraction of its value. It is better than finding a silver coin in a junk box.
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Valued Member
Philippines
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Swamperbob - it's really worth it if its platinum not only in its metal content value but its rarity... wow ! can you post one of its pictures here? And is the platinum specimen you were mentioning the same as the 2 peso Isabel Blanca found in madrid ?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The counterfeit struck in Platinum looks identical to a real coin - it is a transfer impression. The picture in the book is dull. Platinum in person is a darker than silver metal. They are usually coated with another metal to make them look better.
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Philippines
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@Pandesalapi - When I started doing a type collection in the late 1990s on 19th century Spanish crowns, I also tried chasing for the Isabel-II 20-Reales and 2-Escudos. But those pieces were quite difficult to obtain. I've seen some 20R at ebay recently, but no 2 Escudos. However, I'm quite afraid doing an ebay purchase because of my recent knowledge of counterfeit items. Really quite awesome to see the crowns during those period changed in denominations from 8R to 20R to 2E to 5Ptas. |
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Philippines
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The counterfeit struck in Platinum looks identical to a real coin - it is a transfer impression Swamperbob - if that's the case then these platinum pieces were far more valuable collectible... wow I wonder how much would it cost a piece by now  Quote:
Really quite awesome to see the crowns during those period changed in denominations from 8R to 20R to 2E to 5Ptas. Fireandice - we share the same interest because I really admire those pieces and its transition from Dos Mundos to Alfonsinos. I am just lucky one of my friend (a known Pinoy high profile seller) offered me the above Dos Escudos in silver. Now my interest expanded by what Swamperbob just posted about the platinum specimen.  |
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Philippines
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How much does a 1867 2 Escudos silver worth? I was able to obtain one from the sidewalk but has two plugged holes at 12 0'clock & 6 0'clock.
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Valued Member
Philippines
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Destiny -  to the forum Kabayan Based on the Catalogo Isabel II, 1867 dos escudos in silver amounts to 311 euros. The most interesting among these silver dos escudos was dated 1866 - pegged at 11,200 euros I am so much interested to look at the photos of your coin with holes. maybe it was used as an "aras" before... |
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United States
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I just discovered I have a 1866 isabel unescudo,  how much is it worth. how would I sell them Edited by vmason
07/01/2010 09:59 am
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