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1909 S VDB On Ebay - Real ?

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 Posted 06/22/2010  12:25 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Excalibur to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
What do you guys think, real or altered ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-1909-S-V-D...em20b1893af9
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 Posted 06/22/2010  12:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hmmm...
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 Posted 06/22/2010  12:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i might want to say altered because of the no refunds
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 Posted 06/22/2010  12:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve199 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Adam, not sure if that logic works...the buyer can get a refund if the item is not as described. Even if the refund is forced by ebay.


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 Posted 06/22/2010  12:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Excalibur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He states that it's an authentic so if it's fake it will mean item not as described. However I think that for ebay to force a refund seller has to have money on his paypal account. If he will transfer them to his bank account they will not be able to do refund. But I might be wrong here.
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He's an established ebay seller with 100% feedback. Would be odd for someone like that to take the money and run away from ebay on a $600-$700 coin.

I'm not qualified to comment on whether it is authentic. But it does appear to have damage on the rim on both sides.
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 Posted 06/22/2010  12:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Excalibur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I didn't mean that this particular seller is gonna run away with money but in general that if somebody transfer his money from Paypal to his bank account then ebay will not be able to force refund.
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 Posted 06/22/2010  1:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve199 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
$563. Did you buy it?

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NO, I decided to pass on it. I really liked it except for that rim damage.
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I'll say it again and then a million more times:

NEVER BUY A KEY DATE COIN OVER THE INTERNET!
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Anytime someone on scambay offers a coin with "no returns accepted" or "all sales are final", that's it, move on, especially if it's a key that is not certified by either PCGS or NGC. I have to disagree with Thad on this one. I have purchased keys online with great success. I have never bought a key of this caliber on scambay.
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Quote:
I'll say it again and then a million more times:

NEVER BUY A KEY DATE COIN OVER THE INTERNET!


Even from someone you know here? I'd be skeptical to buy from a stranger on ebay but I trust most everyone here.
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yea, other than the forum, I only buy lots (assuming they are all common), Silver for melt, and other low end stuff.

Plus, I like going to stores, interacting with dealers, and once you develop a good rapport with dealers, often times they hook you up.

I like the thrill of the hunt, not the wait of the mail.
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He's an established ebay seller with 100% feedback. Would be odd for someone like that to take the money and run away from ebay on a $600-$700 coin.


He appears to be an estate liquidator. He could unknowingly put a faked coin up for auction. If it came from an estate collection its interesting that its not in some sort of holder.

I would stay away from estate liquidators and pawn shops. They probably don't know coins beyond looking up the value in a book.

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My main point is that buying a key is a very important decision. You should LOVE the coin before you drop big money and to love a coin you must see it in person with your own eyes. It's a big deal considering it's your collection, your money and it may be something you'll have a very long time.

Sure, lots of people have bought them over the internet and are pleased. But, why not take your time and search dealers, shows or wherever, for the magic coin? Are we in a race? I don't know about everyone else, but I clutch onto $1000 or more pretty tightly. LOL I just have to see it with my own eyes before I'll let go!
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... but the placement of the mintmark looks legit...
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