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 Posted 06/22/2010  6:36 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add twohawks to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Well today the wife, son and I had plans to go to Kennywood Park but got rained out. (we listened too the whether report) BIG MISTAKE

So I went out to see if I could make my day better!

A nice 86-O Vam-1a clashed (E)
A soild 63 85 Vam-4a no clash
and a 1885 PL and a 1884 PL I still need to VAM!



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 Posted 06/23/2010  09:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Russ, Sorry it's taken so long to respond to these awesome picks. I'm having some serious issues with the site from my work station. It's taken me 40 minutes to get to this point to be able to respond. Pages are taking over five minutes to load. Seems to only be this site. Bummer!

How many clashes on the 86-O (7, 2 or 1)? Hope for the one clash. The others are beauties, too.
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 Posted 06/23/2010  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twohawks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just one very deep single clash, Seatednut. Why is 1 chash better then 2 or 7?



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 Posted 06/23/2010  2:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was asking about the 86-O VAM 1a. If the "E" is the only visible clash it's about double the price of the 7 or 2 clash coins. Then you showed me all the clashes on the 85-P.
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 Posted 06/23/2010  2:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twohawks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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I am a real frat smeller.... OPP'S Smart fella

Sorry Seatednut

Looks like a single clash, the thing has (NO Obverse Clash)



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 Posted 06/23/2010  6:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Russ,

The single clash is priced higher due to rarity. Although not assigned a distinctive number, buyers look for the single clash. Points to check for additional clashing:
1. Obverse
a. Neck - wing clash
b. Hair V - S/T clash
2. Reverse
a. E Letter Clash
b. Right wing (your left) neckline clash
c. Wreath - hair clashing and profile

I'm far from a guru on these, but my guess would be the 7-clash was EDS, the 2-clash MDS, and then after all the polishing was done, they couldn't remove that darned 'E'.

Single clashes go for about $100 in VF, the other two $50 each.
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You know. I never understood what the whole commotion about ' VAM's are. And I still dont. So is a coin made more valuable based on minute tiny differences that identify a set of dies that it was minted by? Honestly, I'm trying to understand better.
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 Posted 06/23/2010  7:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twohawks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's OK Think of the 3 legged Buffalo nickel, All that happened on that coin was someone at the mint was a little long on the polishing of the die. Or the S over horizontal S 1909 penny.

Some of the Vams as far as what you are looking at are just different. Some are very strong and different to the eye. Think of a Cud coin.. of all of the 100,000's coins struck by this die the coin you hold was or is one of it's last, some folks like them.



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 Posted 06/24/2010  12:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aladinslamp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
BUDDY you just SUCK..........
thats some darn nice coins,,,,and vams to boot....
I wish the rain and tornados would do the same for me!!
funny I have some see thru message about composing my message.
but truley Russ you know what I mean.......Very very nice...
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You know. I never understood what the whole commotion about ' VAM's are. And I still dont. So is a coin made more valuable based on minute tiny differences that identify a set of dies that it was minted by? Honestly, I'm trying to understand better.


ianmprice, It's 'OK' not to "get it". Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I didn't "get it" four years ago, then I noticed that coins that appeared to be common to me were selling for moon money ... several thousand dollars. I saw it as an opportunity to acquire low and sell high ... with the proceeds funding my other coin passions. All you had to do was study up on the diagnostics and start searching. My treasure hunter mentality took over. After many thousands of hours of study and looking my interest in VAMs took a different path. I've had some luck with "cherry picking" valuable pieces for much less than they are worth. But now I don't want to part with them ... only if I find a better example to I flip these. Bottom line ... the more you know about VAMs, the more you understand the madness.
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