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Can anyone see what looks like a faint "S" tilted a tad to the left? Orrrr is it break time   |
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Very interesting photo, I've subscribed to this topic to see where it goes. I don't have the experience to answer this question but I know others here will have some excellent ideas.
Thanks for posting this,
Wayne
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I see something that looks like what you're describing, but it may be break time anyways.  Do you have full-face pics of the coin? |
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Zoom in on it some more, and you will likely see all sorts of things (maybe a horizontal O or an inverted W or a Phantom E). Zoom out and you'll see a Philly mint Morgan.
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This sort of thing is possible with ANY coin, it is not restricted to 1921 Morgans. I see a 5 pointed star circled in red, a tilted O circled in green, and that is just after 10 seconds of eye games. I am sure that there is plenty more to be found.  |
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I see a line representation of Ouroboros above your O. I always wondered if these things are from minor scratches on the die, or coincidental toning or something.
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Oooooo, yeah nod, I see it also! Looks like it could be two of them or maybe just one (doubled). I was too shy to mention it until you brought it up. Good eye nod,(I guess).
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Another magical attribute inherent in these tricky 1921 Morgans is that by changing the vector between camera lens and coin surface, the subliminal messages encoded in the coin can become stronger, disappear, or change into something else altogether. I think that George Morgan had these things all figured out, and did this just to mess with us.
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Okay, I see what you are saying Tiege. Sorry for all of the foolishness, no offense intended. Since the coin is a 1921 Morgan, I doubt that anyone would attempt mm removal, so that leaves PMD as the most likely suspect here, as a filled mm, a strike thru, etc would not look like this given the very rough outline of the lump that I believe you refer to. Die chip is a possibility, and could be substantiated by finding another like it. I'll go with PMD at this point though. |
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No prob Zee ... I get like that alot myself. I kinda thought about the PMD but am still a rookie as to identifying stuff like that. TY for the input |
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The left to right positioning of the various mm do add a measure of careful thought of the anomaly, but vertical spacing should come into consideration as well. If I am looking at the right "S" here, it is just a tad bit high to coincide with any of the illustrated mm. Perhaps there are other SF mm with such height?
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 Do not get discouraged or lose enthusiasm based on anything 'I' say Tiege. I am far from being an expert on anything coin-wise, I am more of a wise cracker than anything else, and I find it far easier to criticize and poke fun than I do to post pictures and ask legitimate questions as you have.  |
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I was thinking PMD and still would lean that way until a crisp close up is posted. I have seen a few things that look like a small gouge or chips that under a good light and lens turn out to be post mint damage Russ |
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Do not get discouraged or lose enthusiasm based on anything 'I' say Tiege. I am far from being an expert on anything coin-wise, I am more of a wise cracker than anything else, and I find it far easier to criticize and poke fun than I do to post pictures and ask legitimate questions as you have. And not for the world would I give you up, for it. Although I'd disagree - you have far more than a clue in stock, knowledge-wise. Tiege, I asked for full-face pics because 1921 San Francisco Morgan strikes are so much deeper than the other two mints that I can usually tell a San Francisco coin from the obverse only. Unlikely with this circulated coin, but I'd like to see the obverse anyways. There's already one prominent 1921-S VAM featuring a completely missing ( Struck Through Grease) mint mark. I consider that the barest of possibilities here. It's virtually certain that no mint mark would ever be allowed to strike a coin with that degree of tilt, much less survive long enough to become a Grease Fill. 99.95% certainty it's PMD. |
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