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Best Strategy = Certified "Sleeper" AU Vs Common MS Gold?

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I have been doing some reading & I need some advice.
Which is the "Best" Strategy to get the best bang for limited bucks when buying certified US $5, $10 & $20 gold pieces? (BTW- My Total budget is limited to just a couple of pieces tops & ALL of them will be certified coins)
Should I buy low mintage "sleeper" AU gold at Mr. Bowers' "Optimal Collecting Grade" (i.e.; coins with eye appeal that have a steep price jump between AU & MS grades) or buy more common date gold at as high an MS state that I can afford for that type of coin?
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Choice AU-58 for each denomination all the way!
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I vote for the "sleepers" as opposed to the common high grade gold. Just my 2 cents.
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It really depends on your goals. "Sleepers" in AU are fine as long as you get a good price, but if liquidity is an issue, I'd opt for MS common dates.

I bought several MS62-63-64 common date Double Eagles to hold as a liquid "investment". Lower mintage "sleepers" were available in AU for the same money of course. My thinking regarded being able to convert them to cash quickly with no loss (hopefully gain) on my investment.

Whatever you do make sure you have a good up-to-date wholesale price guide (like Greysheet).
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bherring1964 makes a good point. I don't think much of it since the majority of my collection is long term. If liquidity is of primary concern in the near term, then common stuff would be the way to go.
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I bought several MS62-63-64 common date Double Eagles to hold as a liquid "investment". Lower mintage "sleepers" were available in AU for the same money of course. My thinking regarded being able to convert them to cash quickly with no loss (hopefully gain) on my investment.


That's a good idea!
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With the gold coins I am collecting for my type set I look for those sleeper coins in AU-58 mainly. These coins can also be available for the same money in the same grade as coins with mintages several times as high. For example, I purchased my 1901 Liberty Head Quarter eagle (mintage 91,100 for less than $250 NGC certified.) The same grade for a 1907 (mintage 336,294) can be had for the same price but is 3X more common based on mintage.

Another example is with half eagles. My liberty 1878 half eagle in AU58 (mintage 131,720)can be had for the same price as a 1881 piece in the same condition for the same price, but the 1881 mintage = 5,708,802. So the 1878 is over 52x less common than the 1878.

What is nice about picking sleepers is that they are just that, sleepers. No one is valuing their low mintage's right now, but some day they may and the pricing catalogs will reflect that change. While paying the same price I feel like it is a win, win. You get a lower mintage coin for common price, if the price goes up you win, if it doesn't go up very much you still win.
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