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My 1882-CC Morgan Is VAM-2!

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 Posted 06/25/2010  10:32 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Whytlash to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
A few hours ago I was reading something here (don't remember what now) that got me thinking about my Morgans and VAM's and I went to go look at my album, and in particular the 1882CC that I got last year. I was trying to remember why I paid so much for the thing, and one look reminded me. A very nice PL, may be DMPL.

I also thought about something I haven't dabbled in yet, VAM's. I went to vamworld and looked at the list for the '82CC and just started at the top. Sure enough, I found every marker for the VAM-2 on mine. Which was kinda cool!

I also looked at my other CC's and was able to attribute my 78 and 84, but nothing on my 83. My 78 is a VAM-9, and the 84 is a VAM-10.

Although it was fun examining the coins to attribute them, it gave me a headache! A bit of work, and that was only 4 coins!

While I was at it I grabbed a few quick pics. Ignore the random bits of dust. This thing shows every speck that floats down when you have the plastic slide out! (note to self: that can of air is sitting there for a reason)

It's a 63 for sure, maybe 64. Maybe 65, but I don't usually have that kind of luck.

What do you think of this Lady?

Steve



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 Posted 06/25/2010  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Slam-dunk PL, DMPL quite possible.

Now, which VAM-2 is it?
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Nice! I'd guess 64. Light chatter throughout, but no major hits and the cheek looks pretty clean.
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It's a beauty, MS-64 DMPL.
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 Posted 06/25/2010  3:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS-64 PL

This one is a GSA coin, too and NGC graded it 64 PL. They appear very similar.



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Thanks for confirming what my quick pics and coin in hand were telling me. I'll have to set up and take some better pics, and get a bulb type air blower to get the fine dust particles off of it. I don't really want to get a can near it. You never know when they're gonna wanna throw propellant! I had just wanted some pics showing the PL and had it set up so I could just set the camera on the desk for stability. Didn't want to set up the tripod for a couple quick pics. And I left it in the album, that's why the reverse shows that way, it looked funny when I rotated the pic.

It was a nice reminder of why I bid so heavy on it. The sellers pics, as I remember, showed the PL very nicely, and I was stunned when it arrived. When I first tipped it into the light I went blind for a second! I have a 98S that did the same thing when I got it last year. Instant blindness!

I have '82, '83, and '84 in GSA cases that I want to check now too! The '83 is an NGC banded 64 that is also PL, but not listed on the band, and the '82 my old dealer marked as a 63PL (he's pretty good on his grading and it is PL), and the '84 he has marked as a 64 and 3 O Doubled 18 Left. He had attached a copy of as page with the info and pic and diagnostics, but it shows no VAM number. Looking at Vamworld it's a VAM-3.

What a can of worms I have opened!


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Now, which VAM-2 is it?


I looked at the A thru E and it did not have those other markers, only those for the straight VAM-2. No other clashing or die gouges. But that was cool enough in itself! I can see the attraction to this, although it was a lot of eye work, it was a lot of fun as well. Afterwards I was thinking that I should probably set up my DigitalBlue to look at them. Probably work a whole lot better than my 10x loupe. I think I'll try that tonight.

Ah, my heads startin' to hurt again!

Steve
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when the VAM bug bites its intoxicating....its too late now...
very nice coin!!
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Thanks Al (nice nickname, huh?)

Although I find it fascinating, and fun, I can also see that it gets deep. At times, probably deeper than I care to get. But that depth can mean money. I imagine if you really had a good grasp of the knowledge (a mini catalog in your head) it would certainly be easier.

I remember when I went to my first (and only, so far) coin show - the Long Beach Coin Expo in Long Beach, Cal. - while I was looking at some stuff at one of the tables there were some guys a couple of tables down looking at slabbed Morgans and that is when I first heard VAM being tossed around. These guys had glasses to the slabs and I'd hear "This one's a VAM-fillintheblank" and such things. I was already aware of VAMs, what they basically were and the names the term came from. And it seemed kind of overwhelming - all the varieties all those minute details. But now, I have a better knowledge of what it means, and it is surely interesting. Being able to say, with certainty, that these two coins came from the exact same pair of dies is very cool.

And looking over my coins in great detail while referencing VAMworld and being able to say "MY coin has all that stuff, it's a "VAM-THIS!" is even cooler!

Steve
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