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1828 13 Star US Half Cent Grade And Opinions Please

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 Posted 07/09/2010  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow. That seller sure took some different looking pictures than what you posted Wheezy. It's still a cool coin but we all usually hope for better in-hand pictures than on the web. This time is didn't quite work that way.
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 Posted 07/10/2010  12:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have taken your advice. I am getting tired of doctored images and undislcosed damage. I opened a case.
Here's the listing.

Item number DELETED to protect the seller.
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07/11/2010 01:04 am
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 Posted 07/10/2010  01:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is he refusing a return or something?
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 Posted 07/10/2010  01:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Is he refusing a return or something?


Maybe. I haven't heard from him yet but I best start the process now.
Oh and by the way I have that Earlycoppercoins webpage in my favs now. Thanks.

I'm not all wound up or anything over the coin. I just think it's my job to say something and give it a try on the refund.
People do wrong stuff all the time, not much I can do about that but when they do it to me, well, I have to.
I don't hate this coin, but I deserve some compensation for the misrepresentation. I can learn to love the coin.
Heck I can love a three legged blind dog named lucky if I make my mind up to appreciate whats good about it.
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07/10/2010 01:46 am
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 Posted 07/10/2010  01:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Generally I would ask the seller nicely for a refund before opening a case, though.
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 Posted 07/10/2010  01:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I did write to him, but I see NO REFUNDS on the listing and a warmified photoshop picture of what I got and I figure it's going to be more of the same. I am always polite until somebody tries to tell me how dumb I am.
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 Posted 07/10/2010  01:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah probably. Sometimes people put no returns by accidents though, about 50-60% of them I've asked about DO offer returns.
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 Posted 07/10/2010  01:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Honestly, if someone can scams like that, I would have no problem with the recipient sending loose change back and forcing a PP refund....

If its definite that they are a scammer, of course. These guys deserve it. Even if they're caught red handed you're always out shipping fees because you have to track it and stuff. It's like they are back where they started, then go scam someone else with no penalty. I wish people would stand up to scammers more....

EDIT: I'm not suggesting you do this as its somewhat unethical, just saying that I would not have a problem with someone gutting a blatant scammer in this fashion.

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07/10/2010 02:00 am
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 Posted 07/10/2010  11:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks everyone for your input. Glad I took your advice. Issue is closed. Now to get another Half Cent.

FROM ebay THIS AM

Hi wheezydog,
We let the seller know the item wasn't as described. And the seller offered
you a full refund for the purchase price plus original shipping if you
return the item.

Refund information:

Once the item is delivered to the seller, a full refund of $65.04 will be
issued through the same payment method you used to pay for the item. The
refund will include the purchase price plus original shipping.


You can view the details of this case and learn what you need to do to ship
the item back in the Resolution Center.
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 Posted 07/10/2010  11:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good for you!

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 Posted 07/10/2010  11:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've no argument with your choice of action, wheezydog. It was the right thing to do. For the record, though, Photoshop wasn't involved. It's simply overlit and overexposed. Perhaps deliberate, perhaps not, but all in the camera and lighting either way.
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 Posted 07/10/2010  1:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, I'm glad you got your refund.
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 Posted 07/10/2010  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Myst to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's just amazing how blatantly misrepresenting some ebay photos can be. I have a hard time believing it wasn't at all intentional. Glad to hear you're gettin it returned Wheezy!
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 Posted 07/10/2010  11:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Before I knew I was getting it back I was sure it was intentional. Now that I had no problem getting a refund, it's easier to think it was just the lighting and be more forgiving in the light of things (pardon the pun).
The bottom line is, pictures can be deceiving and sometimes a seller may not mention just how much better the coin looks in the picture they post than the item does itself.
I'm sure I would have had to say something if I were the one who listed it.
I guess this case is closed as soon as I send a tracking number, so before this topic gets way off the grading idea, I guess we all might just use this info for our own cautious shopping in the future and let it be.
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 Posted 07/11/2010  12:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nhgreek to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is great! I am a scammer now! The photos of the coin were taken in natural sun light so that the details of the coin would be clear. The point was to show what was being purchased, and not to deceive any buyers of possible flaws. The photos were not touched up or photo-shopped in anyway. Further, I clearly stated in the auction, "please contact me if you have any questions or would like a better image to analyze the coin's condition." If you were not sure or were suspicious of the coin why did you bid? Why did you not ask any questions before placing your bid? I made no misrepresentation about this coin or its condition, unless its not an 1828 classic 1/2 cent with 13 stars. I said nothing else. I did not grade the coin and instead encouraged all prospective buyers to judge the grade for themselves to avoid any disputes. The coin is circulated, copper, and 182 year old. Naturally the coin is going to be darker in color and have wear. I am refunding the money back to this buyer, but the whole point of the no refund policy was to get unsure buyers to ask questions first and really make sure they want the item before committing to a purchase. It is a waste of my time and money, as well, when a bidder is not happy. It is not all about you. I do not auction or sell items for a living, I am simply making some spare cash. Nevertheless, you or anyone else should not bid on an item haphazardly, and then claim you were misled. I did not pressure you into buying this item, nor did I set the specific amount you paid for it. It was an auction. I know there are scams online, and I too have been taken for a ride a few times. That is simply one of the hazards of making purchases online. So, I can fully understand and empathize with everyone initial reactions, but this was not a scam only a buyer's remorse. I did not come on here complain or start an argument with anyone. I just wanted to tell my side of things. I have no hard feeling toward "Wheezydog", he seem like a really good guy and I only wish him good luck in his future coin collecting and life in general.
Rob
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