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Bedrock of the Community
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Welcome to the forums nhgreek. I have no hard feelings either. Sometimes things get read with some tone, that isn't really there. Many of us poke fun at online auctions and how absurd some are. I am glad you came here, you sure caught me with my pants down writing about the listing. I am glad I didn't get too out of line and glad that I wrote my previous post that it was probably bad lighting. It took some guts to come in here and stick up for yourself. I am hoping that this whole string can get swept under the rug now. I am going to delete the ebay link in my post, to protect your seller name. I think you are a good egg. It didn't take long for you to just agree to take the coin back even though you have no refunds. I guess that's why I got frustrated and pretty much had a bit of an attitude when I went off on this tangent. But you proved me wrong, you are taking it back and told your side and all is water over the dam as far as I am concerned. When I get my refund, I'll leave a nice feedback for you. I hope that all is well now. I get very uncomfortable when our members don't get along and there is discord in the forum posts. Me I'm OK with things, I hope you stay, I apologize for stirring the pot. |
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Valued Member
United States
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The point is that the picture is not an accurate representation of what the actual coin looks like. If a picture was taken to accentuate the details and it was stated as such and mentioned the fact that the actual coin was much darker etc that would have been fine. There may not have been any bad intentions, but I would also have been disappointed in the coin I received vs the coin in the picture. You can't judge a coin by a picture that doesn't look like it.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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This was in NO WAY buyer's remorse. It wasn't disclosed that the coin had blatant problems and you should have, honestly. I don't think you're a scammer but calling it buyer's remorse is wrong when the photo was so different than the real coin. The picture should accurately show the detail AND condition.
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Valued Member
United States
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I commend nhgreek for coming here and calmly voicing his side of this experience. There is one statement that I have difficulty with: Quote:
Naturally the coin is going to be darker in color... Although, yes, it is 182 years old, the coin being darker in color is not a natural assumption. That is the purpose of pictured in auctions. To represent and item as accurately as possible. A picture can be taken that illustrates the "in hand" color of a coin. As was stated, it would be a different matter if the auction had included the above quoted statement, thereby eliminating (or, at least, reducing) the probability of a misunderstanding regarding the actual color of the coin. One could also include an "as seen" photograph with an "enhanced to show detail" photo. But, these are things that are learned in this process. I do not believe you had an intent to deceive. As I wrote earlier in this thread I received a coin that was not as represented by the photographs, with a picture showing a much lighter colored coin than it is "in hand". I think the real lesson here is for sellers to describe and picture items for sale as accurately as possible. If it is dark, a picture would show that, to the best degree possible. Nonetheless, I would imagine that this particular transaction should be complete, and the context of this thread complete as well. What we may learn from it is an ongoing thing. Steve |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Exactly, I think some people don't realize how important having a photo be reasonably coin to the real in hand appearance of a coin is.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10284 Posts |
Now not to beat a dead horse, but I have re-read this. Some think I was a bit bothered by a darker coin and contrasting splotches in color. I was not so disappointed in the color as I was the layers of environmental damage that actually has some lamination type pitting. In the original image it appears to be some sort of toning actually. Just to clarify, I was not happy with the coin surface at all. The sunlight seems to have not revealed this in the original image.  |
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Valued Member
United States
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I understand Wheezy. (Why do I suddenly feel like George Jefferson talking to his wife?) Anyway, I did read in your post your mention of the surfaces and the, what we'll call, corrosion. It's all too easy for us, on the other side of the monitor, to key on the color and the original photographs representation of the coin. And I do understand the sellers reasoning behind the photo. It can be hard to see detail in a photo of a dark coin. It's an abject lesson in the power of a photograph. This photograph had the power, based upon its exposure to minimize a couple of important factors. The primary factor, for your purposes, being the corroded surfaces. Much as the photograph that I used to bid on that 1859 IHC. (Oh man, he's on about that Indian Head penny again!) The exposure hid a couple of important factors, the color and the rub. On the other hand, I picked up an 1864 2 Cent piece that is chocolate brown. I mean DARK chocolate. The sellers photograph was highly indicative of the coin in hand. There were no surprises when it arrived. It's Uncirculated, or darn close to it. I don't recall exactly what I paid for it, about 60 bucks I think, but in putting it under a glass I only see hints of rub on the high points under all that chocolate. The good part of this is that you WERE able to come to an amicable disposition on the coin, and perhaps all have come away with something valuable. BLNT, Steve |
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Valued Member
United States
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My thought was at the very least if it was stated to be different than the picture, you would have had some idea to then ask for additional photos which would hopefully have shown all the problems. This would be the eqivalent of selling a car with a photo of the good side when the other had scraped up against a guardrail. Hey... I said you could contact me for photos to judge the cars condition  |
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New Member
United States
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Wheezydog,
I completely understand where you are coming from, and I did not take anything you said personally. You are entitled to your opinions as is everyone else and I respect that. I posted only tell my side of the situation. I do appreciate all the comments and feedback left by the other members. I felt that I had properly represented the coin in my auction listing by encouraging inquiry, but judging from the comments posted that was not enough. I accept that and will learn from this error.
Rob
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Moderator
 United States
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I accept that and will learn from this error. I hate to turn this into a lovefest, but with that you've joined the list of sellers whose offerings I track. This isn't the first time an ebay conflict has reached these pages with the "other" injured party joining to post here; they've gotten ugly in the past and we've been watching this thread very closely as a result. We don't allow "ugly" here. Stick around, nhgreek. I urge you to take advantage of the knowledge available here; we've a pretty active subcommunity of photographers and ebay sellers, and it may be that you'll find something to help you get more money for your offerings. This conflicts me; as a seller I want to maximize my results but as a buyer I want it cheap.  I rationalize by knowing that there will always be deals to be found, but every more-capable seller we can create will improve the ebay experience for everyone. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10284 Posts |
I have sent the coin back with insurance and tracking yesterday. To do both, it had to go Priority. Cost me $7.35
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Rest in Peace
United States
5375 Posts |
Yeah Dave, the same thing happened to me once and it got pretty bad....
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm going to have to disagree I don't think SGS would go quite that high MS-9999
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