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One Massive Chinese 12 Oz Silver Coin

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 Posted 07/06/2010  10:47 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I just bought this huge Chinese 12 oz silver coin:

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It's so huge that the current Aussie circulating coins can fit on the coin easily:

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Pretty neat. Haven't saw one for sale for a while and this went pretty cheap in my opinion.
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 Posted 07/06/2010  11:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
how much was it?
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 Posted 07/06/2010  12:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful coin!
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Philippines
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 Posted 07/10/2010  10:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I,ll make a guess, current spot x 12 + 10% right gx?

a very very nice bullion piece!
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 Posted 07/10/2010  7:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hc8604 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice coin.
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Australia
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 Posted 07/11/2010  2:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've only seen one for sale and that was on ebay that went for over 650USD. I didn't pay anywhere near that figure. This one is probably a bit over half of that.
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 Posted 07/11/2010  4:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pandesalapi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a very interesting and super nice coin.
Beautiful to exhibit in a memorabilia cabinet to be located in any Living Room
Thanks for sharing
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Philippines
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 Posted 07/12/2010  04:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
12 Oz is pretty heavy, just like a good sized serving of Sirloin steak 360 grams

How much did you get it for?
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 Posted 08/02/2010  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's another example for 465 euros. http://www.ma-shops.com/stadler/ite...2004&lang=en

Doesn't appear on the market very often.
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 Posted 08/02/2010  09:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, I would be so cautious when purchasing that big thing. I would get it certified.
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 Posted 08/02/2010  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice bullion item a very pretty "coin" and a mintage of under 4,000 pieces. I am hesitant to refer to bullion issues as coins, but for our purposes it is a coin.

Personally, I am always very cautious when paying a premium over bullion for such an issue. Rarity in simple terms of numbers is terribly misleading for coins like this. There are many similar silver issues with low mintages where current market value is spot less the normal margin. So when you think about selling don't get your hope up that the low mintage will get bids of spot plus any percentage.

I would advise that you do an SG as soon as possible to preclude a forgery.

I did an SG on a 12 ounce bullion coin for a local coin Dealer about a year or so ago. I can't recall the exact date on the coin but I think it was 1992 or 1993. The dealer (a good friend) was trying to sell it and the buyer didn't think it "felt right". I became the arbitrator on the deal because I knew both parties and they both trusted me.

The piece was definitely struck - I have no doubt about that and the surfaces appeared to be normal mirror proof with frosted elements - so the dies used were properly prepared. I could not determine if they were original dies or not. I have not seen this type of coin too often. The coin was exactly the proper weight. We did not have the dimensions as hand so a physical measurement check was NOT done. It would have likely detected the problem. The surface was pure silver (the dealer had done an acid test on the edge).

But in hand (to me) it felt underweight. It was too large to be so light if you get my drift. I was suspicious as soon as I lifted it.

The dealer had taken it in as a bullion purchase and had paid over $120 for it, but an SG revealed a Copper-nickel core. The SG was just under 9.00. (Theoretically it was 6 or 7 % silver.)

After the SG test was done - we cut into the edge of the coin to expose the color change which was a fraction of a mm below the surface. The coin was not in my opinion electroplated - at least not using any process I had ever seen. The pure silver layer was as thick or thicker than you see on old Sheffield Laminates. It was not a layer of a couple 1000ths of an inch - YOU COULD SEE THE LAYER CLEARLY without magnification. A small scratch did not reveal the forgery because it did not get in far enough.

So, I am saying all that to indicate that you should be careful with this particular issue. My friend the dealer lost over $100 on the transaction (he did get a few dollars from the smelter) and he had done as much as any dealer normally does to protect himself. It would have been a great buy for me but he refused to sell it.

It was caught by a savvy buyer with a gut feeling that something was wrong.

Does anyone know the exact dimensions for the 12 oz. Chinese coin? A simple measurement would confirm the density as well as SG because the coin is SO BIG.
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 Posted 09/16/2010  01:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sethhsu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you want to check--
I searched in Chinese, and I found that 1988 12oz silver panda coin's diameter is 80mm. It should be the same as this one.
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 Posted 11/24/2010  11:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
New record: 1681USD. Speechless...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...260694703190
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