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1866 3 Cent Nickel

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Picked this up on ebay for a price I couldn't resist.... I'm not sure yet if I'd consider it an upgrade to my type example, but it definitely has better detail and quite the crusty look for a 3 cent piece. Grade opinions?

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 Posted 07/26/2010  9:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
just for kicks...here is my old example. They both have pros and cons, but which would you choose between the two as a type example.


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 Posted 07/26/2010  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Prethen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The second one has tons of luster and appears mint state. The first one might be an AU, albeit with some nice detail and fully original. I kinda like the second one better, even with the poor reverse strike.
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I like the clashing on the OBV and the die break on the REV!
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 Posted 07/27/2010  12:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add slaufman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For what it is worth, I prefer the first one. I don't know what it would grade, but I would love to have that coin myself.
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The first one looks like AU53 with a very strong strike and the second looks MS63 with lacking details maybe from a combination of weak strike with damaged and filled dies. I like a coins design. So I go with number 1.
Did you notice that the second 6 in the date is really close to the curls in the number 2 coin and obviously far from the curls when compared on coin 1?
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Wheezy great eye! That is quite interesting. I would put the second one in my type set. I love the luster... To bad the strike is so weak.
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I see that the clashing on the first on is opposite of the clashing on this one. Clashing is coupled to a rotated die....rather interesting.

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I would put the first one in the set. The second one is technically a better grade, but with a weak strike. I would rather have the AU in the typeset.
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The obverse of the second one is sort of an anomoly. The hair detail isn't all there, but those rims are hammered! Look at the wire edge that appears around the obverse. Is still like the second one due to that very nice luster.
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I tend to prefer a well struck coin over a higher grade but poorly struck coin. I do find the high grae piece interesting though. It appears to be either a partial collar or possibly a broadstrike.
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I think I read someplace that these very often had die clashes and it isn't that big of a deal to find that on them.
What makes them a good die clash is the amount of detail that is shown as a result.
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Thanks for the opinions. So it seems like the consensus is AU on the first one? That's about what I was thinking, and I'm quite happy for what I paid. :-)
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It almost looks like a little bit of acetone might help the first one.
Does anybody have thoughts on that. It might help it a little bit more.
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i dont know, I think it'll be fine just the way it is.
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This old-timer concurs about the acetone. Using it sparingly with a Q-tip, a gentle rub and dry, would likely remove that residual discoloration and thus conserve the coin's surface. I'm wondering if the bright one was once whizzed? Can't tell from the pic. Another thought is that it may have been struck with greasy dies or else there may have been some foreign material lodged in the die at the time of striking? I understand that wood chips were often used to wipe the dies, and some wood would get lodged in the dies on occasion. Just some thoughts to ponder .......
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