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Jefferson Straight Clip Planchet

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 Posted 08/12/2010  01:21 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add RollHunter to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Okay here's another one I pulled from the rolls about a month back. Much worse shape than the curved clip - I originally thought it was PMD but now I'm second guessing myself so I thought I'd solicit opinions:

Jefferson-Straight-Clip-Planchet Jefferson-Straight-Clip-Planchet

Outer edge of the "clip"

Jefferson-Straight-Clip-Planchet

Opposite edge of the "clip"

Jefferson-Straight-Clip-Planchet

Evidence for:
* Slightly weaker rim about 160 degrees around the coin (not quite opposite "clip"). Hard to see in my horrible pictures but it's definitely there.
* STATE looks weaker than UNITED and OF

Evidence against:
* The location conveniently follows the bottom bust line
* parallel scratches on the clip's edge
* slightly upset "rim" along the "clip" ... burr from a file?
* coin is pretty worn so it's hard to tell if the evidence for is really there
* who finds two of these a month apart?

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 Posted 08/12/2010  05:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have an Australian aluminum bronze $2 coin much the same as yours. In this case, the planchet was punched at the end of the rolled strip, and so was subsequently fed into the press, resulting in the segmental straight edge.
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 Posted 08/12/2010  06:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pyrbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like PMD. I think I even see the grinding lines on the flat at the edge.
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 Posted 08/12/2010  06:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twincam_04 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


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Looks like PMD. I think I even see the grinding lines on the flat at the edge.

i think I would be trying to find the Blakesley effect, I don't know much about the planchet punches, but every shear I have ever seen has a slight angle to it, no matter how straight up and down it may seem to the naked eye
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 Posted 08/12/2010  07:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EgCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Looks like PMD. I think I even see the grinding lines on the flat at the edge.


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 Posted 08/12/2010  08:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Although I said that I have an end of strip planchet, those fine line lines on the flat edge area I must admit, DO look like PMD.
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 Posted 08/12/2010  2:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DylansDad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd say PMD as well. Sorry.
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 Posted 08/13/2010  03:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Images of the reverse area where the UNUM is might help? If the devices are strong to the area in question, then it was PMD. If the devices including the rim is fading it might be real. So an close up image of the area might be the biggest help right now.
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...0Clipped.jpg
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...llar_001.jpg
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...ped_half.jpg
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...ped_Cent.jpg
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 Posted 08/13/2010  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RollHunter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Those are about the best pics I can get with my cruddy equipment, but it looks to me like it's for sure PMD as I originally thought. Thanks for the confirmation everyone!
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