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 Posted 08/13/2010  12:09 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add kenneth2925 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I received an e-mail from some guy named "Swift Taylor" stating he's from China ( because everyone knows that Taylor is a very common surname in those parts ) trying to sell me fake PSGC coin holders.



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Dear friend

I am China coin seller ,i make Replica PCGS coin ,they have very high quality ,please see picture F

http://s758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/rarecoin/

i can put any coin into PCGS box ,if you need please contact me ,also you can buy a few coins ,

you can check the quality first ,when you pleased with the coin then buy more coins ,

i am sure that you sell these PCGS coin will let you make a lot of money.

Best wishes for your family!

You friend:Taylor


What a sum bag, he even suggests to me that I could sell them an make a lot of money.I never really expected someone to be this blatant about counterfeiting, I'm just dumb founded.
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 Posted 08/13/2010  12:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would think PCGS would want to know about this, especially in light of their recent crackdown on coin doctors. I'm interested to see the responses and advice you get on this.

Isn't Taylor Swift a country singer?
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08/13/2010 12:14 am
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 Posted 08/13/2010  12:26 am  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Photobucket album has no correlation with that the e-mail states. Those coins and slabs all look legit from what I can tell.

So why did you receive a random e-mail from someone selling "fake" coins?
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 Posted 08/13/2010  01:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fioti to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If those are fakes, maybe I'll swap-out a few of mine. I think GO is right on.
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 Posted 08/13/2010  04:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add latman100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is the 1877 IHC in his album fake? Don't all these have a weak 'N'?
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08/13/2010 04:27 am
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 Posted 08/13/2010  08:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add big777bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There has been almost 6500 visits to that photo album, how many of those do you believe are "honest" people just looking out of curiosity and how many are looking to buy? This counterfeiting thing is out of control. The call of the almighty dollar is just too much!
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 Posted 08/13/2010  08:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add big777bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Latman100, Some of the 1877 Indian cents have a bold N but they are proofs. It is possible to find circulated proofs but it is rare. The business strikes have the weak N.
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 Posted 08/13/2010  09:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Incredible! That's the best looking 1916D dime in F12 I had seen so far.
The PCGS in the reverse is a dead giveaway of being a fake around the shadow of the globe. The word NASDAQ and its symbol drop shadow is way off.
One thing I would say is that they did improve on the slab, I am impressed.
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 Posted 08/13/2010  11:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Those coins and slabs all look legit from what I can tell.


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If those are fakes, maybe I'll swap-out a few of mine

How closely did you guys look at those coins? Most of them are fairly obvious fakes Some of the grades do not match and several of the coins would have only been slabbed "Genuine" by the real PCGS based on surface conditions alone. What is a bright red MS Large Cent doing in an XF40 slab?
This Trade Dollar has hairlines all over it yet it is in an MS63 slab. The mintmark on the 1914D lacks the diagnostic triangular center hole and as previously noted by latman100, the N on the 1877 is all wrong.
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 Posted 08/13/2010  11:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not sure why all the discussions on this subject. Those fake slabs are appearing all over the place lasely. Usually well versed dealers find them easily but many are being sold and many people have them in their collections and don't know they are fakes since they are in a PCGS slab, how could they be anything but real. This has been going on for some time now. My suggestion is if your a slab coin keeper, I would suggest having someone with many years of experience check them out. Faked coins in real slabs, fake coins in fake slabs, real coins in fake slabs are being sold all the time.
I too am curious why they picked you for that email. Any prison time in your past.
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08/13/2010 11:39 am
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 Posted 08/13/2010  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
LOL! I am going to suggest to PCGS and NGC to make "detect a fake shield protective eye glasses." So the Chinese counterfeiters will have to come up with forge eye glasses wares.
Anyone like the style of my Avatar eye wear?
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08/13/2010 12:30 pm
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 Posted 08/14/2010  02:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kenneth2925 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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So why did you receive a random e-mail from someone selling "fake" coins?

I spotted a fantasy coin on e-bay the other day and figured what the heck it's only a buck:

I-Got-This-E-Mail-The-Other-Day.

I-Got-This-E-Mail-The-Other-Day.
I didn't see any harm in buying this coin since it is obviously a fantasy coin with no equivalent in us currency and has the word "copy" stamped on it. I guess the guy I bought it from either shared my e-mail address with this jack wagon IS the aforementioned jack wagon. Either way I will not go over to the dark side. I don't think buying a fantasy coin that caught my eye to hang on my wall is such a bad thing.

Oh, by the way, no jail time in my past unless you count my time stationed at Fort Polk.
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 Posted 08/14/2010  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They have improved on the slabs, but yes those are all fakes. Frankly it's easier to spot the coins as fakes than the slabs.

As much as I am against supporting the counterfeiters, I wouldn't mind having one or two of those just for study.
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 Posted 08/14/2010  5:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maudry to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The problem from buying from these people - whatever the reason may be - is you are encouraging them to continue. And that is probably the worst you can do...
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