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1923 S Full Date SLQ

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I got sniped by $5 and change at the end. $275 was as high as could afford right now.......

A great deal for the person who won it - plus the others in the lot. I graded the 23S as no less than F15.

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By the way - I'm hoping it was another CCF member who beat me out. Just wish this was a couple weeks back, I could've gone another hundred or more.
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 Posted 08/15/2010  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Keith,

I don't think that is a genuine 1923-s. It looks more like a modified 1928-s to me. If that is the case, your fortunate not to have won..
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I thought about that - and the 7 day return policy is why I bid.

I blew it up on my CPU - but couldn't determine if it was a pre-25 date field or not.

I know you seem to be better at picking out issues - so you're probably right, and saved me some postage.

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I know you seem to be better at picking out issues


Well, I don't know about that. You've picked up on stuff that I've missed before. Anyways, I blew up the photo of the coin and am posting it along with my 1923-s.

The first thing that bothers me is the fact that the date is extremely strong, even though the rest of the details are VG-ish. You rarely see that on a pre-25 slq. Also, the date numerals are very narrow(like a post-25), and it appears that the area below podium is recessed. All points to a post-1925 slq.


1923-S-Full-Date-SLQ

Here is a shot of mine. Overall detail is about the same, but only the "3" is visible and the look of the date is very different.



1923-S-Full-Date-SLQ
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Oh man, close one!
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Definitely altered. I agree with Johnny completely. An SLQ with that amount of wear should not have such a full date.
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I wish there was a way we could inform the buyer so they can return the lot, but we won't know who won it until they leave feedback. ouch!

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Thanks for the comparison photos - I feel like I won now. LOL.
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On the real 23, you can see the corners for the rock? the date is on, whereas those corners do not seem to be present in the altered date. Was that part of the changes that were made when they recessed the date in 1925?
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here is a shot of mine, similar to Johnny's



1923-S-Full-Date-SLQ
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Excellent example gormang! That one looks a bit stronger than mine too, maybe F-12 overall?
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I'm a little late jumping into this thread, but does it ever seem to any of you that the pre-1925 quarters have stronger or more pronounced reeding (is that the correct term?) around the rim? I'm not talking about the edge, I'm talking about the series of "dots" and "bars" near the rim on the obverse.

If this observation is correct, then it would support the conclusions that you've already reached that the 1923-S in the ebay lot is probably an altered 1928-S. Look at the reeding on the two genuine 1923-Ss shown in this thread and then go look at ANY FINE or worse post-1925 quarter and you should see what I'm talking about.
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I think you mean denticles?
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Definitely altered. I agree with Johnny completely.




There is no question. The altered '23 is defintely a post '25 coin. Shameful!


That was a good bullet to dodge!
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Nod - Yeah, probably. So...whatever they're called...does anybody else see what I'm talking about?
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